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Bones088 · 10-09-2009, 10:11 PM

Check this out, it is a long read but, if you get through it, what do you all think about this?
http://www.news10.net/news/local/sto...?storyid=68160

forever_pit · 10-10-2009, 01:29 PM

If Stevens is found guilty and the precedent is set, I wonder whether the Court will go after PETA and other animal rights extremists who routinely create and publicize images of animal abuse and torture. Or would those items not be subject to this law?

Honestly, I am one of those who thinks that once free speech is tampered with that censorship will only continue to grow. It's one thing if they can prove that this guy made the videos or was the one fighting the dogs, then there is a case for prosecution. I mean, it was not that long ago that there was a discussion here about the film "Off The Chain" and I know several of us have viewed that...should that video be made illegal? Erasing something from pictures does not erase the act.

JM2C.

Bones088 · 10-10-2009, 02:18 PM

Thanks for the reply, my son had brought this to my attention and just as I opened your post he called and we have been discussing it.

I personally think it would be a violation of our consitutinal right to free speech. The law against this is already in place in every state of the union so prosecution of the violation of the law is what is needed of the depicting of it. If you are taking pictures of an illegal dog fight (last I heard spontanious dogs fighting wasn't illegal) there is probably a law prohibiting you from that participation of the illegal dog fighting. Stick with that. If you are taking a picture of you and your buddies dogs that happened to get in a fight I think that wouldn't be illegal so no prosecution.

To compare child pornagraphy and dogs fighting is absurd. imo

jinxxycat · 10-10-2009, 04:07 PM

While I'm no expert on constitutional rights I think this is wrong prosecuting this guy for that. And what Alison said also rings true, groups like PETA routinely send out those packets with pictures of abused and tortured animals, would that be illegal? Hell on Facebook there are those groups "stop animal abuse now" that when a person joins, it posts those terrible pictures of a tortured animal. I think they are stretching it with going after this guy personally.

And it IS absurd to compare this to child porn IMO.

10-09-2009, 10:11 PM	#1 (permalink)
Bones088 Senior Member Distinguished Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Western Slope Colorado Posts: 4,576	Supreme Court Check this out, it is a long read but, if you get through it, what do you all think about this? http://www.news10.net/news/local/sto...?storyid=68160 __________________

10-10-2009, 02:18 PM	#3 (permalink)
Bones088 Senior Member Distinguished Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Western Slope Colorado Posts: 4,576	Thanks for the reply, my son had brought this to my attention and just as I opened your post he called and we have been discussing it. I personally think it would be a violation of our consitutinal right to free speech. The law against this is already in place in every state of the union so prosecution of the violation of the law is what is needed of the depicting of it. If you are taking pictures of an illegal dog fight (last I heard spontanious dogs fighting wasn't illegal) there is probably a law prohibiting you from that participation of the illegal dog fighting. Stick with that. If you are taking a picture of you and your buddies dogs that happened to get in a fight I think that wouldn't be illegal so no prosecution. To compare child pornagraphy and dogs fighting is absurd. imo __________________

10-10-2009, 04:07 PM	#4 (permalink)
jinxxycat Senior Member Distinguished Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 4,630	While I'm no expert on constitutional rights I think this is wrong prosecuting this guy for that. And what Alison said also rings true, groups like PETA routinely send out those packets with pictures of abused and tortured animals, would that be illegal? Hell on Facebook there are those groups "stop animal abuse now" that when a person joins, it posts those terrible pictures of a tortured animal. I think they are stretching it with going after this guy personally. And it IS absurd to compare this to child porn IMO. __________________

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10-10-2009, 01:29 PM	#2 (permalink)
forever_pit Senior Member Distinguished Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: SE FL Posts: 5,440	If Stevens is found guilty and the precedent is set, I wonder whether the Court will go after PETA and other animal rights extremists who routinely create and publicize images of animal abuse and torture. Or would those items not be subject to this law? Honestly, I am one of those who thinks that once free speech is tampered with that censorship will only continue to grow. It's one thing if they can prove that this guy made the videos or was the one fighting the dogs, then there is a case for prosecution. I mean, it was not that long ago that there was a discussion here about the film "Off The Chain" and I know several of us have viewed that...should that video be made illegal? Erasing something from pictures does not erase the act. JM2C.