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Old 10-31-2009, 08:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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It's been forever since I've been active on this forum, but I may be in a position soon of needing as much help/advice/info from yall as possible.

My wife and I just bought a new house in a fancy subdivision yada yada yada. Before moving getting too serious about the house, I looked at the by-laws of the community and what not about possible dog restrictions. We have a 2 1/2 yr old AB who obviously means more to us than buying a home in any neighborhood. They do have a ban on APBTs, which I completely disagree with obviously, and "any other aggressive breed of dog including but not limited to Rotweillers and Dobermans". Those are the only three breeds listed. Tonight we were walking the dog, and a gentleman comes out of his house to say that pit bulls aren't allowed in here, and we told him that we have an AB that is CGC etc etc. He says he doesn't think that will fly with the board, and that he is going to bring it up with them.

What I am asking of you guys is to give me any websites/info/anything that not only states that ABs are not aggressive but maybe even that they are great family pets. Also, if you know of anything that shows number of attacks by 'non aggressive' breeds in order to maybe show that it's the individual dog/owner that is the problem, not the breed. When we moved in I planned on fighting to get the APBT ban lifted after I'd been here awhile, but right now I'm only worried about my dog.

Any help in this area at all would be greatly appreciated. I don't know what I'd do if they tried to tell me I'd have to get rid of my dog. Hopefully it doesn't come to that, but if it does there's going to be a fight and I want all the ammo I can have to go after them. Thanks yall.
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Not to be a downer or anything, but you could find that same information for a pit bull saying they're good with kids and such. What I would focus on is that it's an AB, being that AB's are not banned in that community. But good luck I hope everything goes good.

P.S. that guy sounds like an idiot.
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Not to be a downer or anything, but you could find that same information for a pit bull saying they're good with kids and such. What I would focus on is that it's an AB, being that AB's are not banned in that community. But good luck I hope everything goes good.

P.S. that guy sounds like an idiot.
I agree, your best bet is going to be to focus on the fact that he is not an APBT.
Pick up a copy of the Bully Breeds magazine available at PetSmart. That magazine
clearly delineates the two as separate breeds. If your dog is papered make sure the
pedigree papers are readily available, get your vet records that list him as an AB, etc, etc, etc.....

Good luck with this!
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It's been forever since I've been active on this forum, but I may be in a position soon of needing as much help/advice/info from yall as possible.

My wife and I just bought a new house in a fancy subdivision yada yada yada. Before moving getting too serious about the house, I looked at the by-laws of the community and what not about possible dog restrictions. We have a 2 1/2 yr old AB who obviously means more to us than buying a home in any neighborhood. They do have a ban on APBTs, which I completely disagree with obviously, and "Rotweillers and Dobermans".any other aggressive breed of dog including but not limited to Those are the only three breeds listed. Tonight we were walking the dog, and a gentleman comes out of his house to say that pit bulls aren't allowed in here, and we told him that we have an AB that is CGC etc etc. He says he doesn't think that will fly with the board, and that he is going to bring it up with them.

What I am asking of you guys is to give me any websites/info/anything that not only states that ABs are not aggressive but maybe even that they are great family pets. Also, if you know of anything that shows number of attacks by 'non aggressive' breeds in order to maybe show that it's the individual dog/owner that is the problem, not the breed. When we moved in I planned on fighting to get the APBT ban lifted after I'd been here awhile, but right now I'm only worried about my dog.

Any help in this area at all would be greatly appreciated. I don't know what I'd do if they tried to tell me I'd have to get rid of my dog. Hopefully it doesn't come to that, but if it does there's going to be a fight and I want all the ammo I can have to go after them. Thanks yall.
Wow. " any other aggressive breed of dog, but not limited to...." That is quite the statement. I do think you should gather info on AB, because they seem to have their bases covered with their wording....seems like they can ban ANY breed, if they deem it " aggressive". I find it hard to believe something like that doesn't infringe on people's rights if you know what I mean. We, In Winnipeg Canada, have a Manitoba wide APBT ban since 1991. But how can a NEIGHBORHOOD make up its own rules??? Is that legal???
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Wow. " any other aggressive breed of dog, but not limited to...." That is quite the statement. I do think you should gather info on AB, because they seem to have their bases covered with their wording....seems like they can ban ANY breed, if they deem it " aggressive". I find it hard to believe something like that doesn't infringe on people's rights if you know what I mean. We, In Winnipeg Canada, have a Manitoba wide APBT ban since 1991. But how can a NEIGHBORHOOD make up its own rules??? Is that legal???
The OP did mention that his dog has it's CGC, so they "shouldn't" be able
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The whole "including but not limited to" portion of the HOA contract gives them tons of wiggle room when it comes to deciding what to do about your dog. I agree that you need to do whatever you can to prove that your dog is in fact an AB - get her vet papers, her pedigree (if you don't have the ped maybe a DNA test?). Good luck with this!
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Tonight we were walking the dog, and a gentleman comes out of his house to say that pit bulls aren't allowed in here, and we told him that we have an AB that is CGC etc etc. He says he doesn't think that will fly with the board, and that he is going to bring it up with them.
This does not sound like a gentleman. Rather it sounds like a bigoted, busy body, putz with nothing better to do then intentionally inflict stress upon others.
I would emphisize that your dog is CGC certified and an AB. I would also consider personally sueing him, if he continues harassing you.
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It's been forever since I've been active on this forum, but I may be in a position soon of needing as much help/advice/info from yall as possible.

My wife and I just bought a new house in a fancy subdivision yada yada yada. Before moving getting too serious about the house, I looked at the by-laws of the community and what not about possible dog restrictions. We have a 2 1/2 yr old AB who obviously means more to us than buying a home in any neighborhood. They do have a ban on APBTs, which I completely disagree with obviously, and "Rotweillers and Dobermans".any other aggressive breed of dog including but not limited to Those are the only three breeds listed. Tonight we were walking the dog, and a gentleman comes out of his house to say that pit bulls aren't allowed in here, and we told him that we have an AB that is CGC etc etc. He says he doesn't think that will fly with the board, and that he is going to bring it up with them.

What I am asking of you guys is to give me any websites/info/anything that not only states that ABs are not aggressive but maybe even that they are great family pets. Also, if you know of anything that shows number of attacks by 'non aggressive' breeds in order to maybe show that it's the individual dog/owner that is the problem, not the breed. When we moved in I planned on fighting to get the APBT ban lifted after I'd been here awhile, but right now I'm only worried about my dog.

Any help in this area at all would be greatly appreciated. I don't know what I'd do if they tried to tell me I'd have to get rid of my dog. Hopefully it doesn't come to that, but if it does there's going to be a fight and I want all the ammo I can have to go after them. Thanks yall.
Wow. " any other aggressive breed of dog, but not limited to...." That is quite the statement. I do think you should gather info on AB, because they seem to have their bases covered with their wording....seems like they can ban ANY breed, if they deem it " aggressive". I find it hard to believe something like that doesn't infringe on people's rights if you know what I mean. We, In Winnipeg Canada, have a Manitoba wide APBT ban since 1991. But how can a NEIGHBORHOOD make up its own rules??? Is that legal???



They can do that, along with many other rules if the HOA ( home owners association ) approves it. many place in Florida have a minimum age of 50 to be a resident.
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It's been forever since I've been active on this forum, but I may be in a position soon of needing as much help/advice/info from yall as possible.

My wife and I just bought a new house in a fancy subdivision yada yada yada. Before moving getting too serious about the house, I looked at the by-laws of the community and what not about possible dog restrictions. We have a 2 1/2 yr old AB who obviously means more to us than buying a home in any neighborhood. They do have a ban on APBTs, which I completely disagree with obviously, and "Rotweillers and Dobermans".any other aggressive breed of dog including but not limited to Those are the only three breeds listed. Tonight we were walking the dog, and a gentleman comes out of his house to say that pit bulls aren't allowed in here, and we told him that we have an AB that is CGC etc etc. He says he doesn't think that will fly with the board, and that he is going to bring it up with them.

What I am asking of you guys is to give me any websites/info/anything that not only states that ABs are not aggressive but maybe even that they are great family pets. Also, if you know of anything that shows number of attacks by 'non aggressive' breeds in order to maybe show that it's the individual dog/owner that is the problem, not the breed. When we moved in I planned on fighting to get the APBT ban lifted after I'd been here awhile, but right now I'm only worried about my dog.

Any help in this area at all would be greatly appreciated. I don't know what I'd do if they tried to tell me I'd have to get rid of my dog. Hopefully it doesn't come to that, but if it does there's going to be a fight and I want all the ammo I can have to go after them. Thanks yall.
Wow. " any other aggressive breed of dog, but not limited to...." That is quite the statement. I do think you should gather info on AB, because they seem to have their bases covered with their wording....seems like they can ban ANY breed, if they deem it " aggressive". I find it hard to believe something like that doesn't infringe on people's rights if you know what I mean. We, In Winnipeg Canada, have a Manitoba wide APBT ban since 1991. But how can a NEIGHBORHOOD make up its own rules??? Is that legal???



They can do that, along with many other rules if the HOA ( home owners association ) approves it. many place in Florida have a minimum age of 50 to be a resident.
My grandparents have a condo it a "seniors only" community. I guess kind of like a retirement village.
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Wow your just moved and your neighbor is already after you plus you have to start fighting for your pet...

thank you neighbor i appreciate your welcome...idiote...

have you talked to other neighbors...get there input..

hope everything works out
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