Need Some Info On Training Obediance - Page 3

**attitude** · 11-18-2009, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by forever_pit

Also, is it possible that a dog that will only down from a sit doesn't really understand what the command means?

i think this is very much the case

Warrior Princess · 11-18-2009, 10:39 AM

I can't remember which way I taught it. But after working on heel, Xena will down from a stand with no problem. Every once in a while she will try to get prissy about the down if she's on concrete.

Kellee · 11-18-2009, 11:10 AM

[quote="forever_pit"]I think it probably depends on the dog and on the individual idiosyncrasies on the handler's part.
Also, is it possible that a dog that will only down from a sit doesn't really understand what the command means?

I taught Gator the down by luring him from a sit. Since day one he has thrown himself to the ground for his downs and - so far - I have not had any problems with that same enthusiasm transitioning to downs from the stand position.

For those of you with problems going from the stand to the down...
What have you done to try and correct the misunderstanding?
What has worked?
I'm not trying to start anything or diss on anyone's training...I just like talking about this stuff.

ETA: Sorry OP, I forgot to address your question.
I agree with doing the NILIF and then looking for a trainer. Just make sure that you get a trainer that will help you reach your goals. If you interested in doing sport work of some kind find someone who can help you raise and train the pup accordingly.[/quote]

When I taught the dogs "down", I guess I always made a sweeping type of hand motion and pointed to the ground. Now, if I don't make the hand motion, they will wait around for it.

One will go down, almost reluctantly without it, but the other won't, he waits for the hand signal to accompany the words. Oops.

esprinter · 11-18-2009, 01:25 PM

[quote="2bully"]

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Originally Posted by BanterBull

No you can lure the dog into a sit without being physical. With treat in hand move treat back towards the dog's hind end while slowly raising the treat so the dog head is looking at the sky and keep going for the hind end until dog sits.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBjANF9GUgM
Something like that. I like this one a little better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTgBSHxNqc0

That's how we did it.

esprinter · 11-18-2009, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Lisa

No particular order. I guess I never really thought it mattered. I just teach it from both right from the beginning.

Same here.

hami2127 · 11-18-2009, 03:54 PM

Yuri was tought Down from a sit position but i have noticed he starts to get ahead of me when training, he knows what i want so if i bust out a treat he will just immediatly flop to his belly so he can just skip all the stuff inbetween him and the treat. its funny he will see me grab the clicker and he just flops to his belly and then i give him some other command and he slowly get up into a sit like hes thinking "damn it know where this is going just give me the treat"

Jackson821 · 11-19-2009, 04:28 PM

LOL thats pretty funny.

11-18-2009, 10:39 AM	#22 (permalink)
Warrior Princess Distinguished Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Hogwarts Posts: 2,863	I can't remember which way I taught it. But after working on heel, Xena will down from a stand with no problem. Every once in a while she will try to get prissy about the down if she's on concrete. __________________

11-19-2009, 04:28 PM	#27 (permalink)
Jackson821 Senior Member Not So New Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 179	LOL thats pretty funny. __________________

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11-18-2009, 11:10 AM	#23 (permalink)
Kellee Senior Member Advanced Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Manitoba Posts: 1,166	[quote="forever_pit"]I think it probably depends on the dog and on the individual idiosyncrasies on the handler's part. Also, is it possible that a dog that will only down from a sit doesn't really understand what the command means? I taught Gator the down by luring him from a sit. Since day one he has thrown himself to the ground for his downs and - so far - I have not had any problems with that same enthusiasm transitioning to downs from the stand position. For those of you with problems going from the stand to the down... What have you done to try and correct the misunderstanding? What has worked? I'm not trying to start anything or diss on anyone's training...I just like talking about this stuff. ETA: Sorry OP, I forgot to address your question. I agree with doing the NILIF and then looking for a trainer. Just make sure that you get a trainer that will help you reach your goals. If you interested in doing sport work of some kind find someone who can help you raise and train the pup accordingly.[/quote] When I taught the dogs "down", I guess I always made a sweeping type of hand motion and pointed to the ground. Now, if I don't make the hand motion, they will wait around for it. One will go down, almost reluctantly without it, but the other won't, he waits for the hand signal to accompany the words. Oops.

11-18-2009, 03:54 PM	#26 (permalink)
hami2127 Senior Member Not So New Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Seattle Posts: 139	Yuri was tought Down from a sit position but i have noticed he starts to get ahead of me when training, he knows what i want so if i bust out a treat he will just immediatly flop to his belly so he can just skip all the stuff inbetween him and the treat. its funny he will see me grab the clicker and he just flops to his belly and then i give him some other command and he slowly get up into a sit like hes thinking "damn it know where this is going just give me the treat"