Protective dog

[AllAmericanPUP]

I'm not sure what kind of PPD trainers you guys are going to.

But a stable dog that is correctly trained in PPD is still going to be a family dog.

Do some searches here on the forum for PPD topics...lisa explained it really well a while ago

[evosol]

I believe there are animals (human's inlcuded) who naturally have more fight drive/survival instincts than others, and I also believe that they type of dog has an inherent temperment that doesn't make it a good choice as a house pet for 99.9% of pet owners.

That might explain why some dogs can do police work and most cannot.

I'm sure there are always exceptions as each dog is going to have its own unique temperment, but they are probably very rare.

I would personally be kind of concerned if a PPD trainer told me otherwise, especially if I was looking for a caliber of dog that was watching my back.

[2bully]

Originally Posted by DavidB

Wife and I decided last Febuary we needed a inside dog for protection (small crimes around us).
As far as do we need personal protection -There is a rough neighborhood (read somebody got shot back there a couple months ago) close by and they just added a though road by our house so we have these people often walking in front of our house. Stuff stolen out of our cars more than once. Neighbors got trailor stolen, reported drug activity,knocks on the front door after 11pm to ask for gas money, shower, clothes we don't want ect.

Personal protection is about layers. First thing I would do would is plant some thorny shrubbery infront and around windows. I would install motion lights around the property. I would also stop answering the door that late in the evening.

Originally Posted by DavidB

We read alot that said to introduce him to 100 people in 100 days so we did.

Please explain what this entails? Describe exactly how this socialization occurred.

[DavidB]

Please explain what this entails? Describe exactly how this socialization occurred.[/quote]

Ok, We just basically took him to see family and friends, work, petsmart, walkings, obediance class, Wife is an apartment maneger and he has spent plenty of days with her and people are in and out all day and of course they all want to pet the puppy. Another thing I find alittle funny about him is when we walk him his confidence seems to attract nervous/ aggressive dogs. One in particular is always waiting off leash and sneaks up behind chopper and nips, growls, barks with his teeth showing and hair up on its back and Chopper sees that as an invitation to play he starts wagging his tell, pawing at him and doing his little dance. Chopper is in love with my moms dog (pekinese) only the pekinese would like nothing better than to shred our clown onto peices even with blood drawn he just loves the attention. No complaints there though. Thanks for all the replies.

[paulnzeus]

Originally Posted by DavidB

Please explain what this entails? Describe exactly how this socialization occurred.

Ok, We just basically took him to see family and friends, work, petsmart, walkings, obediance class, Wife is an apartment maneger and he has spent plenty of days with her and people are in and out all day and of course they all want to pet the puppy. Another thing I find alittle funny about him is when we walk him his confidence seems to attract nervous/ aggressive dogs. One in particular is always waiting off leash and sneaks up behind chopper and nips, growls, barks with his teeth showing and hair up on its back and Chopper sees that as an invitation to play he starts wagging his tell, pawing at him and doing his little dance. Chopper is in love with my moms dog (pekinese) only the pekinese would like nothing better than to shred our clown onto peices even with blood drawn he just loves the attention. No complaints there though. Thanks for all the replies.[/quote] He sounds very much like a puppy, what is his age? I may have missed it.

[2bully]

Originally Posted by DavidB

Please explain what this entails? Describe exactly how this socialization occurred.

Ok, We just basically took him to see family and friends, work, petsmart, walkings, obediance class, Wife is an apartment maneger and he has spent plenty of days with her and people are in and out all day and of course they all want to pet the puppy. Another thing I find alittle funny about him is when we walk him his confidence seems to attract nervous/ aggressive dogs. One in particular is always waiting off leash and sneaks up behind chopper and nips, growls, barks with his teeth showing and hair up on its back and Chopper sees that as an invitation to play he starts wagging his tell, pawing at him and doing his little dance. Chopper is in love with my moms dog (pekinese) only the pekinese would like nothing better than to shred our clown onto peices even with blood drawn he just loves the attention. No complaints there though. Thanks for all the replies.[/quote]
Alot of people make the same mistakes as you have. Socialization is important but varies greatly from discipline to discipline. I take my pups out and about with me often but I keep their attention on me, I don't often allow people to pet, treat, or interact with my pups. I don't allow my pups to play with other dogs, I take my pups around them but it is I who my pup interacts with. PP training comes to most as an after thought, meaning that they've had a dog for some time and have developed habits and training that isn't conducive to pp training. So now what has been done to this point has to be undone.

[jackersmommy]

OK, I am going to give you some really practical advice, that will prolly accomplish all you want from your dog.
Teach him to "speak" but instead of the speak command say "who's there?" Use this when someone unknown is at the door. Believe me, my dog is the friendliest dog ever, but most strangers don't stick around to find out after they hear him bark. A good loud bark will go along way to protecting you. At least, it does in my experience,, and no more Jehovah's witnesses or Mormons either!

[DavidB]

He sounds very much like a puppy, what is his age? I may have missed it.[/quote] He is still a puppy. He turns 1 year tomorrow. I was thinking around this age his personality might start changing. I have recently read that bull dogs are slow to mature.

[DavidB]

Originally Posted by 2bully

Alot of people make the same mistakes as you have. Socialization is important but varies greatly from discipline to discipline. I take my pups out and about with me often but I keep their attention on me, I don't often allow people to pet, treat, or interact with my pups. I don't allow my pups to play with other dogs, I take my pups around them but it is I who my pup interacts with. PP training comes to most as an after thought, meaning that they've had a dog for some time and have developed habits and training that isn't conducive to pp training. So now what has been done to this point has to be undone.

I was wondering if he wasn't a little too socialized. Thats what got me thinking he should meet someone that makes him uneasy.

[DavidB]

Originally Posted by jackersmommy

OK, I am going to give you some really practical advice, that will prolly accomplish all you want from your dog.
Teach him to "speak" but instead of the speak command say "who's there?" Use this when someone unknown is at the door. Believe me, my dog is the friendliest dog ever, but most strangers don't stick around to find out after they hear him bark. A good loud bark will go along way to protecting you. At least, it does in my experience,, and no more Jehovah's witnesses or Mormons either!

I love it. He's not much of a barker but, We're going to try and get this going.