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Ok, I did a search for a topic on this, and I'm sure there probably is one, but I can't find it... so if you know where it is, let me know and please forgive me for starting a new post!

Scout is a puller. We tried a choke chain initially, but I can't pull on the damn thing because I feel bad. Then we got a gentle leader, but she hates it so much that she has actually scratched her nose to the point where it bled because she was trying to get it off.

Anyone have any good suggestions? Walking her by myself is miserable, but it's something we both need!

BTW, she is 2.5 years, and despite her pulling, is fairly well trained... excitable, but well behaved!!
 
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ok first off, i am sorry if this comes across as nasty, got in poop once before for this same comment but it was true then and it is true now..... if your dog is pulling she is not "fairly well trained" . a dog that is still pulling , to the point of making walks "miserable" needs to go back to school. i will suggest you enroll in an obedience class so you can work with distractions and make your walks more pleasant. you can put every collar you can find on her but until YOU learn how to use them she is still going to pull
 
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I totally agree with you attitude!

BTW i have tried alot of different things too choke chains, gentle leaders, prong collars and the tool that works best for me and my boy or has been@ least (he really only pulls going up a mountain i know i know thats bad but we are working on it) anyway the premeir easy walker has worked very very well for us! i sell alot of them and have had no complaints so far
 
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Scout-dog said:
Ok, I did a search for a topic on this, and I'm sure there probably is one, but I can't find it... so if you know where it is, let me know and please forgive me for starting a new post!

Scout is a puller. We tried a choke chain initially, but I can't pull on the darn thing because I feel bad. Then we got a gentle leader, but she hates it so much that she has actually scratched her nose to the point where it bled because she was trying to get it off.

Anyone have any good suggestions? Walking her by myself is miserable, but it's something we both need!

BTW, she is 2.5 years, and despite her pulling, is fairly well trained... excitable, but well behaved!!
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with me its simple wiith the knowledge that somtimes my wife or daughters will walk my dogs they can't pull.
choke chain is the fondation of all training corrections... either you correct unwanted behavior or reinforce bad behavior. which in the long run is much much crueler
 
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i agree with attitude. Go back to obedience school and get the trainer to discuss different collars with you and how to use them properly and continue to work with distractions. it's the only "tried and true" method.

about the smacking on the butt....Never heard of that before and don't quite understand why you would do it really. what are you smacking him on the butt with exactly? the leash or your hand?
 
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attitude said:
ok first off, i am sorry if this comes across as nasty, got in poop once before for this same comment but it was true then and it is true now..... if your dog is pulling she is not "fairly well trained" . a dog that is still pulling , to the point of making walks "miserable" needs to go back to school. i will suggest you enroll in an obedience class so you can work with distractions and make your walks more pleasant. you can put every collar you can find on her but until YOU learn how to use them she is still going to pull
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Oh, no offense taken... I just mean that in all other aspects, she's good. Sits, waits, rolls over, doesn't jump up, etc. She picked up on everything in obedience class with the exception of walking. It's the one thing we just can't seem to get through her sweet little pitty head.
 
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attitude said:
Puregrover said:
when he pulls smach him on the but to get his att tell him no make him sit down till he calms down rember your the boss not him
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what???? is that a "dog whisperer" method cuz it is a new training method to me :scratch:
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I met a guy with a big AST (like 85lber). Everytime the dog pulled, he would slap his dog in the balls. I wasn't sure if I really saw him do it the first time, but then he did it again. :shock: He said that it really works to stop them from pulling. I said that it can't work that well if you have to keep doing it. :roll:
 
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ultimatek9 said:
attitude said:
Puregrover said:
when he pulls smach him on the but to get his att tell him no make him sit down till he calms down rember your the boss not him
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what???? is that a "dog whisperer" method cuz it is a new training method to me :scratch:
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I met a guy with a big AST (like 85lber). Everytime the dog pulled, he would slap his dog in the balls. I wasn't sure if I really saw him do it the first time, but then he did it again. :shock: He said that it really works to stop them from pulling. I said that it can't work that well if you have to keep doing it. :roll:
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:shock: WOWZER! I would never slap Legend in the balls for pulling! When he starts pulling I turn in the opposite direction or do what Cinder does and stops until there is no tension in the leash.
 
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ultimatek9 said:
I met a guy with a big AST (like 85lber). Everytime the dog pulled, he would slap his dog in the balls. I wasn't sure if I really saw him do it the first time, but then he did it again. :shock: He said that it really works to stop them from pulling. I said that it can't work that well if you have to keep doing it. :roll:
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:shock: WOW! Well, being a girl, Scout lacks the equipment, but I couldn't imagine doing that! I wonder what made that guy even think of it.

She is just so darn excitable. A very high energy pup. Sounds like most of our dogs are, though, so it must be fairly common in the breed. I'm glad though, that's half the fun of having her.

Well, does anyone have any tips that they learned in their obedience classes regarding pulling? Because apparently what they taught us does not work. They would just have us make her sit and wait and then when it was time to go again, make her sit again. I guess to enforce patience?
 
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My dog doesn’t have this problem, but I would stay away from a harness for sure since Bullies have a tendency to pull anyways. I don’t know how well trained your dog is, but when Buster gets excited and starts to lead me I make him sit and wait till Im ready to walk again...considering your dog is larger than my pup, I would suggest using a traffic lead instead of a leash. This will give you more control and agreeing with everyone else...go take some obedience classes. :thumbleft:

P.S....don’t do the ball slapping technique!...you might get a response that you won’t be happy with.
 
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Scout-dog said:
ultimatek9 said:
I met a guy with a big AST (like 85lber). Everytime the dog pulled, he would slap his dog in the balls. I wasn't sure if I really saw him do it the first time, but then he did it again. :shock: He said that it really works to stop them from pulling. I said that it can't work that well if you have to keep doing it. :roll:
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:shock: WOW! Well, being a girl, Scout lacks the equipment, but I couldn't imagine doing that! I wonder what made that guy even think of it.

She is just so darn excitable. A very high energy pup. Sounds like most of our dogs are, though, so it must be fairly common in the breed. I'm glad though, that's half the fun of having her.

Well, does anyone have any tips that they learned in their obedience classes regarding pulling? Because apparently what they taught us does not work. They would just have us make her sit and wait and then when it was time to go again, make her sit again. I guess to enforce patience?
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We tried everything on Xena. The last thing we tried for the longest that didn't work was stopping in place and making her sit before moving on. The only thing that has worked is the prong collar but your dog may be too young for that now.
 
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Wonder Lead

Here is what you do, use the Wonder Lead ” http://www.gundogsupply.com/wonleadbydel.html”, (you may not feel comfortable out of a fenced area to do this, that is fine do it in the fence), take the wonder lead put on the dog right behind the ears and walk him with it. If the dog pulls with the cord end between two fingers (it has a leather stop at the end, if the dog is larger and your fingers can’t hold him your hand). Pull with little individual 1 second pulls, as you are still walking and he will eventually get the picture (pull until he is walking beside your leg. If you don’t want to purchase this training aid your can use the same technique with his collar or choke chain. Remember with all of these pinch type training aids if you pull to hard or just keep constant pressure on them you can damages the esophagus, these are training aids and are to be used properly. You are not to use constant pressure it does no good. Little individual pops of pressure will get the reaction desired, don’t yank so hard he leaves his feet this will also harm to the animal, but do apply enough pressure that he gets the picture
 
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