AB people, get in here!

I was surprised by the differences in OEB when I first started looking . . . I went OEB because they are supposed to be healthier/live longer, yet I wanted the English look . . . are my dogs going to be healthier, live longer just because OEB is their "name?" Probably not . . . I did not know squat, I know a little more now because of you guys.

But I'm sitting here thinking horse again! LOL!
Why do we feel a breed/ABs need to look alike?????

We raise Quarter horses & Paints, same bloodlines, Quarters are solid, Paints are spotted . . .

I raise certain bloodlines because I like to game/barrel race, I like turn & burn with brains & good conformation . . . I mix, cow, raise & halter . . . my favorite bloodline is Skipper W and his breeder was Hank Weiscamp, Weiscamp bred cow & race type horses with beautiful conformation, and Skipper W horses usually have golden retriever type temperaments . . . I used to run Man O War, Moon Deck, Jet Deck bred horses, all race bred & terrible to train, hot hot hot, nasty at times and thoroughbredy built, very lean, best horses I ever had once you get them trained if they did not kill you BUT I'm over 50 now and not into getting maimed . . . the Skippers are easier to train because they are ppl lovers, they are rounder & prettier built but still have the heart & conformation to get out & boogy . . . there are Quarters & Paints out there bred for western pleasure, english & other disciplines that are not going to fit with my breeding program because of conformation, temperament etc . . .

My Skipper W bred mare has taken grand champion in halter here in Minnesota but if I was to place in the WORLD show, I would probably have to have an Impressive bred horse, fed, medded & trimmed to be competitive in halter class, bred to look like a BEEF cow, so fat & heavily muscled that they can't trot without tripping over themselves much less run! And very possibly foundered & dead by age 5.

so I guess what I'm saying is that even in the bullies, AB, OV, OEB, EB, etc . . . is difference in a breed a bad thing????? The AB has many different uses. Do most bully ppl go by bloodlines like I do with my horses? You hear ppl mention "Scott type" or "Gargoyle" bloodlines etc . . . You go with the bloodlines/breeder that suit your discipline be it protection sports, hunting, showing or pet . . . .

I could care less about papers on my dogs . . . but I can see where papers could be important . . .

my horses are a business, you show in your disciplines, get them out get them seen, state Expos, breed shows etc . . . keep up with memberships, registrations, DNA, breeding reports . . . breed NICE outside mares for ppl who will show them, ship semen, breed your mares, sell the foals at 3-5 months old . . . I used to get $500 to $2000 a foal right off the mare, paid for the keep of our 30 plus breeding horses at the time and a few extras, always for the ranch, trailer, tractor etc . . . those very same foals without their papers would be worth about 10% of their value.
with this economy, they do not pay for themselves and we have cut way back.

The money was/is in registered horses, there is no money in grade/unregistered horses.
They have to be registered to show at breed shows and at World, horses shown & winning at that height will still bring top dollar . . . you can still get $100,000 for well bred cutting and reining horses, big money if you are winning with big money invested . . . Hollywood Dun It Won over $2,000,000 and 50% interest sold in him for $1,000,000 . . . imagine those private stud fees! His babies won big, very prolific stallion . . . so you are talking registered horses plus all the money you are paying into futurities to compete. The big AQHA championship race pays out over $1,000,000 . . .
big money racing/showing is only in registered breeds . . .

so is it like that with dogs too?????

endurance racing is one of the very few things I can think of, where the horses do not need to be registered or a certain breed, mules compete too . . .