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So as most of you know I have been looking into getting male AB pup.After about a month I found a lady who
lives 7 hours from me and has been breeding for time.I did a background check on her with the better burro business and it came back clean.I have seen pictures of past litters and there owners.She has an area on her site with the pedigrees/sire
and what not and seems to be on top her game.Well she had said that her female was due to give birth this month and if I was interested I had to put down my deposit so I could be on the waiting list for one.so I sent my deposit and got an email that they were hoping she would have them any day now.Well I hadn't heard anything from her so I sent her an email asking how the mom was doing and if there was any signs she would be having the litter soon.I then get an email back saying that she is taking mommy to the vet Tuesday and would let me know what is said.So last night I get a call from her saying she took the mother to the vet and the vet had said she had a False pregnancy.I have heard of this before BUT it threw up the red flag.She said she had never heard or seen this before.She was very apologetic and said that her other female was due to go into heat soon and if I was still interested that she would give me first pick of the litter.I told her I would get back to her.The red flag is: is it possible for a dog to have a false pregnancy and her not realize it the whole time? She said she was producing milk towards the end that her temp dropped a day or two before she took her to the vet and she put on weight like she was in fact going to have pups.She does have I believe two pups in her house with this female who has had litters before.I guess my question is does this lady sound like she knows what she is doing? Is it possible for something like this to happen? What are all of your thoughts on this.Should I take my money elsewhere?
 

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yes it is possible for an *inexperienced* breeder to assume their dog is having a false pregnancy *all the way thru*. what throws up more of a red flag for me is the fact that you needed to send a deposit to be on a "waiting list" and now your deposit will give you "pick litter" . so what happened to the others on her waiting list? i would take my money elsewhere, but i am not the most trusting person lol. if you are comfortable, post up the site link or pm me with it. i will do some quiet poking around. again only if you are comfortable with that
 

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After speaking to others on this forum and with there help I stumbled upon a BYB.Leave it to me to have had this happen.So if anyone knows of a GOOD,RELIABLE,EXPERIENCED breeder near or around me would you share any info please.
Thanks to those who have helped me out on this matter.
 

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Kelly said:
After speaking to others on this forum and with there help I stumbled upon a BYB.Leave it to me to have had this happen.So if anyone knows of a GOOD,RELIABLE,EXPERIENCED breeder near or around me would you share any info please.
Thanks to those who have helped me out on this matter.
Live and learn! Just be glad you got out of it when you did. Good luck on your search. :)
 

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I am really pissed off now.I am glad this got caught in time but now i am pissed.Most of you know my story and if you dont just go back to find any post I have made and you will come across it.I am starting to think that I will never own an AB.My 30th Birthday is this coming Saturday and this was going to be a late Birthday gift to myself.Money put a side for the cost of the pup and vet bills and I feel let down and let me mention i am a PMsing woman here and feel hurt all at the same time.Can someone please help me out here.
 

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kelly are you looking for someone in pa specifically? there are good people out there with puppies on the ground or soon to be. but if you are looking specifically in pa and surrounding area you may have to wait a bit.
 

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there are lots of good people on the east coast.
these guys are in michigan. awesome dogs (i know it's not the east coast, but it's not far :lol:
http://jemmskennels.com/home.html

toni livingston is on the east coast, NY i think. al joye is in VA.
try going to american bulldog resourses and checking out kennels. can't say i recommend all the kennels they list but it is the most complete list you will find
 

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Kelly, why are you so set on getting a dog in your local area? The best breeders ship dogs and will stand behind them. Not to be rude but judging from your experience with this other "breeder", it doesn't seem like you did much homework before you put a deposit down. Maybe it would be in your best interest to spend some more time doing homework so you know what questions to ask and you know who the reputable breeders are that are out there. There may be hundreds, if not thousands of AB breeders in the world, but only about 1% would be what I consider "reputable". The chance of a good breeder being in your own back yard is pretty slim.
 

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LISA: I have done my research,people make mistakes and learn from them which would be my case.I would rather not have my dog shipped because I have it set in my mind I want to meet the breeders,there dogs,see there environment and see the temperament of the pups.Anything wrong with that.I have three kids so I do not want to travel across country with three kids in tote which is why I am looking around me.We will travel 10-12 hours if we have to but I DO NOT want to have my dog shipped.
 

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It is understandable to want to see the parents and puppies in person...I can see people wanting to do that BUT there are breeders out there who can be trusted. The good breeders know what a good temperament is and can stand behind their dogs. Just curious, do you know what NCL is? Do you know how FEW breeders are testing for it?
 

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Ya I guess Google works good. :D . My guess is the breeder with the "false pregnancy" did not do the NCL test, therefore you did NOT do your homework prior to putting down that deposit but please correct me if I am wrong. Who is the breeder? I am not trying to be rude here but I really hate to see people get ripped off by so called breeders who are only breeding for their own selfish reasons ($$$) and unfortunatly that is the category 99% of AB breeders fall under. Even if you buy a puppy from one of these clowns and you are happy with it as a pet, it still irks me to no end that someone profited from your purchase. Please, if you are going to spend money on a puppy, support the right people. People who do the appropriate health tests and know what type of temperament a quality AB should possess. There are some good breeders out there you just need to find out who they are.
 

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BTW, Kelly, I just re read your original post. The BBB is not the place to find out if a breeder is reputable or not.
 
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