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Ive heard many people say that have used the pads, gradually bring the pads closer and closer to the back door, and then outside. Then discard the pads. This will take several days, and possibly weeks, but eventually they will get the idea. I didnt use the pads at all, but trained Brodie from the start to use a bell to let me know he needed to go outside, and it worked as soon as he figured out what the bell was for, and we had no more problem.
 
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