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Hi guys, Boss loves to play tug and loves to fetch sticks and what not. Anyway, I've been trying to work on his "out." After a few seconds he will drop his rope tug toy, but will NOT out his sticks. He'll come back to me, but stays at least a foot away when I throw a stick for him to fetch and come back with. I can't get him to let go of it. Is he stressed about letting go of the stick? It's not like there's any shortage of them at the park lol. I have also tried to get him to "out" by grabbing another stick and showing it to him, but he ignores that and he even ignores when I try to offer him a treat to let go :? He'll usually do backflips for food! Any tips? Why do you think he refuses to let go of the stick??

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in this instance i would have two sticks. throw one when he comes back show the second stick, say "out" and as soon as he does throw the second. there are other methods but this is what i would try first
 

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in this instance i would have two sticks. throw one when he comes back show the second stick, say "out" and as soon as he does throw the second. there are other methods but this is what i would try first
He ignores me once he's got the stick. He tries to stay out of arms reach from me and stands there and chews the stick, and I try to make the other stick exciting (while looking like an idiot at the park :lol: ) but he just doesn't want to let go of what he's got. I was thinking I wouldn't use the out on sticks, but I want him to let go of whatever he has when I say "out." Should I pull him close to me on his leash in order to get his attention, maybe?
 

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I had a dog that was much like this and what i did was used a longer leash i would play with her with the stick for a while and then let her take it from me telling her that she was a good dog but then i would bring her back and have her let me take the stick also rewarding her when the stick was returned to me i think this let us both be winners and let her know that giving the stick back would always be rewarded. Hope that makes sense and helps.
 

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I had a dog that was much like this and what i did was used a longer leash i would play with her with the stick for a while and then let her take it from me telling her that she was a good dog but then i would bring her back and have her let me take the stick also rewarding her when the stick was returned to me i think this let us both be winners and let her know that giving the stick back would always be rewarded. Hope that makes sense and helps.
What did you use to reward her? The trainer that I'm doing agility with, suggested to hold him by his collar and simply have my hand on whatever he was chewing, but not pull, and that he'd eventually let go. I don't really like this method, though. It takes him a long time to let go this way.
 

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as this is a game and you want to keep it all in fun, what about using a food reward? i take it he comes back to you with the stick but won't let you have it? when he comes back give your "out " then show him a piece of hotdog when he drops the stick take it THEN give him the hotdog.
would that maybe work for you?
 

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I agree with Attitude about the food reward. The key is to teach the exercise at home first, where there are no distractions and make sure the dog is HUNGRY when you teach it. If you want to use food as a training tool that is very important! Don't feed your dog then a couple hours later try using food to teach your dog something! It may still work on dogs with a very high food drive but not all dogs are like that. Both my dogs new what "out" meant as very young puppies. Have pup play with toy and then show pup the food, often times the dog will spit the toy out on its own when it sees the food, as soon as dog does this say the word "out" as they are spitting it out. Eventually you will not have to show the dog the food anymore and they will out on command. I love using food in my training!
 

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I agree with Attitude about the food reward. The key is to teach the exercise at home first, where there are no distractions and make sure the dog is HUNGRY when you teach it. If you want to use food as a training tool that is very important! Don't feed your dog then a couple hours later try using food to teach your dog something! It may still work on dogs with a very high food drive but not all dogs are like that. Both my dogs new what "out" meant as very young puppies. Have pup play with toy and then show pup the food, often times the dog will spit the toy out on its own when it sees the food, as soon as dog does this say the word "out" as they are spitting it out. Eventually you will not have to show the dog the food anymore and they will out on command. I love using food in my training!
oh tell the truth, you just have a hotdog fetish!! :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5:
god i HATE hotdogs :puke: :puke: :puke:
 

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Yeah but I can't get him to pay attention to me after he's got the stick, you know? Like, I have to practically chase him. I guess I'll try to pull him to me so that he'll pay attention to the treat I offer him. Thanks!
 

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ya i think the ladies are right about the hot dogs.... must be good to be your dogs lisa my poor guys only get a crummy cookie.... now i know if i am ever hungry i just come to your house and grab a stick...
 

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:lol: evan that is funny! lisa's dogs probly eat better than you or i!

Tara<3Boss, where abouts in mississauga are you? hmm, maybe pm me if you wanna hook up some time and do some training stuff. boss is just a pup and so is izzy (4 months) so maybe i could help you out?
 

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attitude said:
:lol: evan that is funny! lisa's dogs probly eat better than you or i!

Tara<3Boss, where abouts in mississauga are you? hmm, maybe pm me if you wanna hook up some time and do some training stuff. boss is just a pup and so is izzy (4 months) so maybe i could help you out?
Ok cool, I'll PM you :D
 

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I had the same problem with my male. I would make him sit and stay untill he wanted to play more then he would drop it so I could trow it. It may take awhile but now it doesn't matter if it's a ball,stick,his toy when I say the word he drops it he is only 8mhts old so I have a long way to go untill I feel he I,M the all the time. hope it helps.
 

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DK's said:
ya i think the ladies are right about the hot dogs.... must be good to be your dogs lisa my poor guys only get a crummy cookie.... now i know if i am ever hungry i just come to your house and grab a stick...
Toooo Funny. :laughing3: ...
 
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