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Please can anyone give me some advice on how to stop Roxy bolting out the garden gate when it is opened. Marlee never runs off, but every opporutnately to bolt Roxy's off.
 

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Please can anyone give me some advice on how to stop Roxy bolting out the garden gate when it is opened. Marlee never runs off, but every opporutnately to bolt Roxy's off.
He has to learn sit/wait. Every time he bolts he's learning a new trick. Don't open the gate with him off lead until he learns wait.

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set it up. bolting is the number one reason for dog getting loose and getting hit by a car. serious stuff.

set it up. attach a long line 15 feet or so. Play with the dog in the garden or yard and get it used to it. Make it forget it is wearing it. Play with the dog.

Now, get your friend to open the gate and make sure you have something very enticing on the other side of that gate.

You have the other side of the long line are you are ready to correct. Make sure the dog has a pinch. NOT a choke. This correction has to be EXTREMELY meaningful or you are wasting your time.
As the dog bolts, AT THE GATE LINE (VERY IMPORTANT), YOU CORRECT THE DOG HARD AND SAY, "NO"!

Dog must associate that gate line with YOU being very angry and harsh correction if it ignores your command. It also tells the dog, YOU have control.

A e collar works to a degree and works well on softer dogs. However, a very high drive dog, espcially dog aggressive pit bulls with high pain tolerance will always require a long line. Always.

Pretty easy actually. Timing timing timing and your willingness to set the scenio up is the key.
 

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It would break my heart if she got hit by a car. Thats why I'm here asking... She is very high drive.

I do make her sit and wait at the gate when we are off out for walkies, but if we are in the garden and someone enters she is off, she will even knee cap the person on the way out so she can't be chased, infact anyone that goes to grab her on her great escape she just heads them in the knee.

Thank you Peter, I will set her up. I have tried that before, but not as she gets to the gate line, just as she goes to bolt. Also we aren't allowed the use of pinch collars here in the uk, they would take Roxy away from me (thats another topic) plus u can't buy them over here. The collar she is wearing is what we use for correction :oops:

1 question, will that work say if she see's a squirrel or cat when the gate is open. My trainer reckons I'm wasting my time trying to stop here chasing prey.

Oh another question, I like her high prey drive, love watching her trying to catch the rabbits when we are out in the countryside, but can I train her so she can only do this when I say so?
 

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Also we aren't allowed the use of pinch collars here in the uk, they would take Roxy away from me (thats another topic) plus u can't buy them over here. The collar she is wearing is what we use for correction :oops:
Oh wow! I didnt know they dont allow pinch collars in the UK. So I guess the ones that look like this are out too. http://www.aboutdogtraining.com/panel.php?5
 

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Roxy said:
Also we aren't allowed the use of pinch collars here in the uk, they would take Roxy away from me (thats another topic) plus u can't buy them over here. The collar she is wearing is what we use for correction :oops:
Oh wow! I didnt know they dont allow pinch collars in the UK. So I guess the ones that look like this are out too. http://www.aboutdogtraining.com/panel.php?5
omg they look evil, your pulling my leg.....u guys don't serious use them :shock:
 

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Roxy said:
LegendsMami said:
Roxy said:
Also we aren't allowed the use of pinch collars here in the uk, they would take Roxy away from me (thats another topic) plus u can't buy them over here. The collar she is wearing is what we use for correction :oops:
Oh wow! I didnt know they dont allow pinch collars in the UK. So I guess the ones that look like this are out too. http://www.aboutdogtraining.com/panel.php?5
omg they look evil, your pulling my leg.....u guys don't serious use them :shock:
I thought the same thing. I WOULD NEVER put one of them on any of my dogs! BUT my German Shepherd who knows commands and when told to do something as simple as sit refuses even sometimes when I have treats and some hot dogs! She also can be very aggressive toward other dogs out in public. I weigh 105lbs she weighs 65-70lbs. She could easily yank me and hurt another dog, herself, another person, or ME! It's like powersteering. It mimics what the mother would do to a pup that is not behaving. I put one on Legend too because he blows through his Gentle Leader now. He's pretty good at heeling on leash w/o any correction collar.

The one I showed you looks less intimadating. :D
 

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They look so harsh. I think the belief over here is that them sort of correction collars can lead to human aggression. Dog not knowing where the pain is coming and associates it with the owner.

I would like to get Roxy a pinch collar. I have seen 1 site that sold them with a flat collar attached to the outsdie to hide the pinch collar. Tho I'm not quite sure what i would do if I got caught using it :/
 

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set it up. bolting is the number one reason for dog getting loose and getting hit by a car. serious stuff.

set it up. attach a long line 15 feet or so. Play with the dog in the garden or yard and get it used to it. Make it forget it is wearing it. Play with the dog.

Now, get your friend to open the gate and make sure you have something very enticing on the other side of that gate.

You have the other side of the long line are you are ready to correct. Make sure the dog has a pinch. NOT a choke. This correction has to be EXTREMELY meaningful or you are wasting your time.
As the dog bolts, AT THE GATE LINE (VERY IMPORTANT), YOU CORRECT THE DOG HARD AND SAY, "NO"!

Dog must associate that gate line with YOU being very angry and harsh correction if it ignores your command. It also tells the dog, YOU have control.

A e collar works to a degree and works well on softer dogs. However, a very high drive dog, espcially dog aggressive pit bulls with high pain tolerance will always require a long line. Always.

Pretty easy actually. Timing timing timing and your willingness to set the scenio up is the key.

I am going to steel this info and try this.Thanks!!!
 

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PeterC said:
set it up. bolting is the number one reason for dog getting loose and getting hit by a car. serious stuff.

set it up. attach a long line 15 feet or so. Play with the dog in the garden or yard and get it used to it. Make it forget it is wearing it. Play with the dog.

Now, get your friend to open the gate and make sure you have something very enticing on the other side of that gate.

You have the other side of the long line are you are ready to correct. Make sure the dog has a pinch. NOT a choke. This correction has to be EXTREMELY meaningful or you are wasting your time.
As the dog bolts, AT THE GATE LINE (VERY IMPORTANT), YOU CORRECT THE DOG HARD AND SAY, "NO"!

Dog must associate that gate line with YOU being very angry and harsh correction if it ignores your command. It also tells the dog, YOU have control.

A e collar works to a degree and works well on softer dogs. However, a very high drive dog, espcially dog aggressive pit bulls with high pain tolerance will always require a long line. Always.

Pretty easy actually. Timing timing timing and your willingness to set the scenio up is the key.

I am going to steel this info and try this.Thanks!!!
Good info! Legend listens to my every I say and is not DA. But I'm thinking Ms. Hardheaded- Gemyni is going to need this! Gonna print it out and keep it for future reference! :D
 

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Great advice, Peter and I agree, the correction MUST be meaningful and leave an impression. If you can get a prong use it!
 

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roxy

the pinch or prong collar looks harsh, but it is much more humane than the choke collar, used the correct way. A piece of rope can kill, if used the wrong way.


Please remember. ONE good correction is better than 15 meager ones. One works, the other reinforces bad behavior.

Have you noticed that that behavior got worse and worse as it aged? Guess why. Black and white. Nothing in between.

Good luck. Let us know how it works out.
 
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