Im no breeder first of all, although I must admit im giving consideration to it further down the line.
Ive been reading extensively on all things Pit and Breed over the last couple of years and will continue to do so and I find a lot of things both interesting and frustrating.
In this forum I see a lot of critique if BYB and I agree with it in principle, I dont feel it really does reflect the reality though. Stopping BYB wont help or save the Pitbull imho. To be honest from what i see now, stopping many serious breeders if the best protection the Pit as a breed can ever have.
Im horrified looking at whats happening in the US in particular with "registered" breeders in the name of the "breed". I see little short fat, blocky objects almost as wide as they are tall, gorwing problems with hips, hearts and bones which never used to be endemic to this dog and I worry that the pit is spiralling headlong towards being another Boxer type breed, so relentlessly bred its now a terribly unhealthy breed. I just cant agree that this is either healthy, responsible or good for the breed. Its a little ironic now that Pedigree Pits have a whole array of associated health problems, and its getting worse and worse. Years and years of "selective breeding" not to preserve a breed but to dictate how people want it to be are ruining this beautiful powerful healthy dog.
If I do decide to go ahead with breeding a couple of years down the line, I have decided im probably going to stay away from registered dogs, papers and all of that altogether. Its important that a Pit is strong, healthy, althletic, good hips, good health, this is important. Not whether it has a paper, or can be bred to make the next lot shorter or bigger of head or whatever.
In Argentina the Pit Bull isnt recognised by the FCA so they are all without papers, and maybe I feel happier for it. I know breeding without papers would prevent registered showing, but then is that so bad?
Isnt the welfare of the animal and the breed itself more important?
Many of the faults for showing are not genetically rigid. A bitch with prick ears and a gay tail can produce perfect pups with rose ears and a conforming tail, thats for sure. Maybe unregistered, unpapered Pits are better off if they are well bred and well raised from healthy dogs by responsible people. They wouldnt be caught up in cruel breed laws, and maybe over time they would breed healthier again without such aggresive selection and limited DNA.
Dont get me wrong, I understand the dangers of this, but they exist either way. If I breed I will breed probably by contract, I would need to know where all of my pups are, have regular information on them, and be there to take them in or help out if there is some emergency which puts them at risk. As I said im still deciding.
I have two new pups now and if in two years once they can have their hips, hearts and various health aspects checked out and are well minded still, we will decide.
Currently we have 7 people, friends and family all hoping for pups from them which is why the subject intially came up, but the more I read the more I think Pits need healthy and honest breeding and care to undo the damage done to both them and their rep. Maybe I wont in the end, but its certainly in my mind. Here in Argentine there isnt the population crisis there is in the US so thats not an issue. youre more likely to see 40000 goldens when out than 4 pits!!
What do people think of this topic, honeslty. I find it all very confused.
Ive been reading extensively on all things Pit and Breed over the last couple of years and will continue to do so and I find a lot of things both interesting and frustrating.
In this forum I see a lot of critique if BYB and I agree with it in principle, I dont feel it really does reflect the reality though. Stopping BYB wont help or save the Pitbull imho. To be honest from what i see now, stopping many serious breeders if the best protection the Pit as a breed can ever have.
Im horrified looking at whats happening in the US in particular with "registered" breeders in the name of the "breed". I see little short fat, blocky objects almost as wide as they are tall, gorwing problems with hips, hearts and bones which never used to be endemic to this dog and I worry that the pit is spiralling headlong towards being another Boxer type breed, so relentlessly bred its now a terribly unhealthy breed. I just cant agree that this is either healthy, responsible or good for the breed. Its a little ironic now that Pedigree Pits have a whole array of associated health problems, and its getting worse and worse. Years and years of "selective breeding" not to preserve a breed but to dictate how people want it to be are ruining this beautiful powerful healthy dog.
If I do decide to go ahead with breeding a couple of years down the line, I have decided im probably going to stay away from registered dogs, papers and all of that altogether. Its important that a Pit is strong, healthy, althletic, good hips, good health, this is important. Not whether it has a paper, or can be bred to make the next lot shorter or bigger of head or whatever.
In Argentina the Pit Bull isnt recognised by the FCA so they are all without papers, and maybe I feel happier for it. I know breeding without papers would prevent registered showing, but then is that so bad?
Isnt the welfare of the animal and the breed itself more important?
Many of the faults for showing are not genetically rigid. A bitch with prick ears and a gay tail can produce perfect pups with rose ears and a conforming tail, thats for sure. Maybe unregistered, unpapered Pits are better off if they are well bred and well raised from healthy dogs by responsible people. They wouldnt be caught up in cruel breed laws, and maybe over time they would breed healthier again without such aggresive selection and limited DNA.
Dont get me wrong, I understand the dangers of this, but they exist either way. If I breed I will breed probably by contract, I would need to know where all of my pups are, have regular information on them, and be there to take them in or help out if there is some emergency which puts them at risk. As I said im still deciding.
I have two new pups now and if in two years once they can have their hips, hearts and various health aspects checked out and are well minded still, we will decide.
Currently we have 7 people, friends and family all hoping for pups from them which is why the subject intially came up, but the more I read the more I think Pits need healthy and honest breeding and care to undo the damage done to both them and their rep. Maybe I wont in the end, but its certainly in my mind. Here in Argentine there isnt the population crisis there is in the US so thats not an issue. youre more likely to see 40000 goldens when out than 4 pits!!
What do people think of this topic, honeslty. I find it all very confused.