Well I get what you're saying, but I don't want a new dog... I rescued her from a bad situation, knowing she may come with issues, so I feel I owe it to her to give her a chance. I just haven't figured out if I have done enough, or is there more I can do... Can I not "fix" this one... should I give up, or try harder. That's what I'm trying to figure out. (Thank you all for helping me out too.) If she was an adult, there would be no question. But she's 6 mos old. How long do you work on this behavior before the dog shows its true colors? I just want to make sure I have done everything humanly possibly to give Nala the best life she deserves.PeterC said:Why build confidence? Why not just get a new dog with confidence in the first place and forget the stress and headaches. forget the nervy growls, the bolting off into the field. Forget the avoidance stance.
PS. bulldog that needs to build confidence..................hmmmmmmmmmm. Isn't that an oxymoron?
Peter, I'm just saying that anyone who rescues doesn't know for sure what they're getting in to. No one KNOWS when they adopt a puppy from a shelter. I wasn't looking for a prize-winner, or a working dog.. I was looking for a pet, and wanted to save one that had no home.PeterC said:WHY would you adopt a dog you KNOW may have issues? That is crazy.
The shy, skiddish ones NEED to be put down.
Would it not be MORE rewarding to get a stable dog that needs a home and adopt that one out so he can have a loving family? Which one is more productive?
If you have a big heart, then use it wisely. Am I wrong?
You know, when she looks at me with those huge hazel eyes, and reaches up to kiss my face... I say yes, she is definitely worth it. But as Paula pointed out, we're not dealing with a shepard, she's a pit bull who will probably grow up to be quite powerful, and potentially dangerous. Can I put down the sweet little puppy who was just kissing my face? I can't, I just can't. I am not that strong. But I will try my best to see if she can improve to the point of being stable. When I have exhausted every effort to improve her confidence, I will have no choice. I can't pass along her problems to someone else. And I hope the day never comes that I have to make that decision. I just want to make it all better. :sad7:PeterC said:I think only you can answer that.
For some, like me, it would be very little. For you, you will go far. I admire your tenacity.
My granddaddy said, " make sure all that love you give that dog is worth it."
Is it worth it?
I have been posting about this for MONTHS if you look back. I think a lot of people missed those threads because there was other controversial stuff going on in the forum, and my threads fell to the wayside. I stopped talking about it for a while, because we were making progress, and there was nothing new to report. As I said, I have been working with her, and she has improved in some issues, but not her shyness/nervousness. Well we're almost into November now, so 3 months ago, I started intensively working with her, after the hand nipping incident. Before that, I was just working on basics with her. She does well, but I think her urination thing has only gotten worse. This thread is about me asking "when is enough, enough?" I really thought I made that clear, because I feel very repetative at this point.msvette2u said:Well I can tell you if she was in my shelter that I'd not have sent her out, in all liklihood, to a rescue even. But I only have one question, you knew her background, that she might have problems, why did you wait until she was 6 mos. to start wondering about her behavior? If I'd been you and took on such a project dog, I'd have gotten into obedience or sought professional help much sooner than you are, if you even ARE consulting a specialist in dog behavior. And don't sit HERE wondering if you're doing the right thing or if you need to put her down or whatever, ask the PROFESSIONAL behaviorist. If you can't afford one or don't have the time, then do the right thing and do not foist her onto someone else, just have her put to sleep. If you're that afraid of her being around your kids then put her down.
I wasn't writing to say that I COULDN'T, I was just saying it's something to keep in mind for people giving advice, because my schedule is NOT like a normal person's. I can't just up and go to PetsMart and expose Nala to new situations. I'm not about to go take a walk in the park after dark either. Training is fine at night, but not the socialization we spoke of about introducing her to new situations. I just want everyone to realize my schedule when they're giving advice, so it's something that works for me. Gotta keep your advice geared toward vampires. LOLLisa said:
msvette, that in no way implies that Nala is in charge. This implies that she is afraid of the leash. And forcing her to wear it, is not beneficial to anyone. I don't know about you, but I think it's much easier to train a calm, content dog, than it is to train one that is fighting, kicking and trying to escape with every fiber of their being. Common sense here, not a battle of "who's in charge." I said I WILL re-introduce Nala to the leash, but it's going to take TIME before she is comfortable enough to just leisurely walk beside me with it on.msvette2u said:So who is in charge, her or you?? You're dooming her by this attitude. I would not give a rat's ass if my dog didn't "go for leash methods", they are A DOG and her life literally hangs in the balance from the sound of it. You need to take over and be in charge or this isn't going to work.but I know Nala -- and she's not going for any leash methods right off the bat
Nikki, I said I DO train my dogs, and I WILL, as they are my responsibility. I'm just saying that I don't have as much free time as most people. Many of you have spouses or family members or at least friends that can help you. If you're married, you take for granted that you probably have someone to help with your housework so that frees up some time to train your dogs. I don't have that luxury. It's just me here. I work 36-52 hrs per week, I sleep, I am a mom, housekeeper, cook, maid, etc. You have to understand MY lifestyle in order to give suggestions that work around my schedule. I am not trying to be difficult here, I'm being realistic and honest. This is what I have to work with, and I'm sorry you feel that's a waste of your time.Roxy said:I really don't know what to say to what you wrote above, except I give up in wasting my time with you. I train my dogs as I owe it to them as a responsible owner, I need them to learn right from wrong.
Good luck or a miricle, because nothing will change.