[Lisa]

A dog being stable has nothing to do with dog aggression. Lots of EXTREMELY stable dogs can be either dog aggressive or dominant, either of which has no place in a dog park.

If a dog is running loose at a dog park there is aboslutely no way the owner can control what happens. Even if a person were to have extreme obedience on their dog, enough that they have off lead control (like say a SCH dog or other high level competetion dog), there is still no way of controlling other peoples dogs. You could yell at your dog to DOWn if you see trouble coming, and even if your dog obeys there is no way that any dog with an ounce of balls is going to allow another dog to dominate or challenge it.

IMO dog parks are a liability. I wouldn't go to one even if I owned a poodle.

People who have bull breeds and take them to the dog park are asking for trouble and are putting the rights of other bull breed owners at risk.

99 out of 100 visits to the dog park may end without any problems, but its that one time that matters. Your bully doesn't need to play with other dogs to be happy anyways. Most dogs are prefectly happy having fun within their own pack. It's certain PEOPLE who seem to think dog to dog socialization is so important, not the dogs.

 

[Lisa]

Re: Dog parks

I'm a little new here but not to bull breeds. The dog park issue seems to never go away and none of us are Cesar Milan. I have watched his show and I'm grateful for the positive light he sheds on bull breeds but I promise you he has issues within his pack. You will not see it on TV but he has them. Not knowing the level of involvement within this message board I will speak in general. The biggest problem I feel the general bull breed owner faces is the have NO idea the damage the dogs can cause in a short time or how to separate them when they catch another dog. In most cases there is a lot of screaming and yelling and all this does is fuel the fire. These are not your average dogs they are very strong and focused. I'm not sure no matter how much control you think you have over your dog let the wrong dog challenge it and see what happens. I truly believe you will not be able to stop or even call off your dog so to speak after it happens, I'm talking from a real fight not just barking and posturing. Just be very careful things you are not aware of will set off or be a challenge to your dog always stay close and keep communicating with your dog to keep their attention on you.
Scott

Excellent post, Scott and welcome to the board! You took the words out of my mouth on a lot of issues.

I agree about Ceasar Milan. I don't doubt his ability to manage dogs, BUT like I said in another thread, there is alot more going on behind the scenes that they just don't show on tv. There is no way that those dogs are just magically listening to him because of his presence. I guarantee he is using alot more than hugs and kisses to get the point across and I guarantee that he has squabbles within his pack!

I think you are right in saying alot of owners underestimate what their bullies are capable of, and its too bad that it often takes a real bad scene, vet bills, BSL, and sometimes hospital visits and lawsuits, before some people see the light.

 

[Lisa]

Hell german shepards were bred to hunt down and kill people/animals.

Is this a joke? Please tell me this was another april fools.

I'll give you one guess as to what the GSD was bred for. Perhaps if you spelled the breeds name correctly you would give yourself a clue.

German ShepHERD

Where on earth do people get their information and why do some feel the need to spread it around as gospel? Get your facts straight before you put your fingers to the keyboard! UGHHH

 

[Lisa]

Hell german shepards were bred to hunt down and kill people/animals.

Is this a joke? Please tell me this was another april fools.

I'll give you one guess as to what the GSD was bred for. Perhaps if you spelled the breeds name correctly you would give yourself a clue.

German ShepHERD

Where on earth do people get their information and why do some feel the need to spread it around as gospel? Get your facts straight before you put your fingers to the keyboard! UGHHH

You are absolutely correct, however; we cannot deny that shepHERDs have for more decades than I've been witness to, be the choice for controling crowds, police and prison dogs, etc... They certainly have done their fair amount of flesh damage to people or they would not be renown for police work of even farther back; my father had one issued to him in Veitnam. No sense in beating up on someone just because they sound a bit hostile and may not have all the facts straight. I di like, I believe it was "dog soldier", that seemed to use this as an opportunity to educate someone.

Controlling crowds and doing police work is not the same as "hunting down and killing people/animals."

 

[Lisa]

Why do close calls always have to happen before people finally wake up?