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I figured I'd start a little "journal" post on what I have learned from my book thus far.

I'm about 1/3 through the book... and so far it talks a lot about the psychology of dogs, and how they react to the "energy" around them. How they behave according to their master's vibes and such.

Well I've figured out a few things... to anyone that read my post about my hiking mishap, I now understand why my dogs were reacting that way. They barked at the stranger who quickly approached us because they were reacting to MY nervous energy. They sensed my fear, and knew something was not balanced. I changed my whole demeanor...I began ushering my son out of the way, I was speaking quickly and quietly. I was changing my grip, I was not relaxed. My heart was pounding, I broke a sweat... the book says a dog's sense of smell is a million times stronger than ours -- simply put, they smelled FEAR. They sensed a threat, and they behaved accordingly. The OB instructor I spoke to, confirmed this was a GOOD thing. Not something I need to "correct." Whether that man was dangerous or not, they knew something was "not right."

As for the other hiker, I think they were simply caught off guard by a strange woman yelling out of the blue. (She was yelling because she was far away.) Once they saw that she posed no threat, and I didn't react in a nervous manner, they relaxed also. They stopped barking as soon as she smiled and walked on. They didn't keep barking till she was out of sight -- just had the initial reaction, as in "who is she, where did she come from, why is she yelling, and is this person okay with mom?"

As far as pulling on the lead -- I think that is simply because they have had very little or no leash training. They have always gotten their excercise by being let loose and free out the back door into our fenced-in yard. I haven't taught them recall, heel, or sit-stay, nothing like that. I have taken them on the trails before, but that was last fall when they were both young pups. Now it's different. They're grown and more difficult to manage. I know someone wrote that I should just demand and expect that they walk nicely on the lead, but I think that should happen AFTER they've been trained to know what I want. They honestly need to learn to HEEL before I can test how well they listen. I don't know if this is making any sense to you, but it does in my head. :D

Another thing, which I had not written about in my hiking post, was that there were some teenagers being stupid off in the distance. Just past the hill, there was a road, and some kids up there were screaming and acting like they were hurt, and then making barking noises to aggravate my dogs. Koa suddenly turned into a "big boy" and let out a very deep, bellowing bark. A LOUD one. He didn't sound like a puppy at all. It wasn't "threatening" but I could tell he wasn't sure how to react.... Screams and then laughter, barking sounds... Again, he sensed that something was out of balance. That wasn't calm energy, there was something amiss to him. He didn't try to run toward them, or away from them. He just stared, very alert, but passive.

I think these are all good signs with my dogs. I just need to learn how to manage them. Along with good basic training, I am developing a better understanding of their behavior...in turn making training that much easier. I've changed the way I speak to my dogs. I'm no longer hasty and tense around them when I give commands. They're not going to listen to that. I am confident and calm -- with the attitude, "this is how it works and you have no choice but to comply because I am your master." Their "pack leader." And they already seem to be listening better.

I will keep you updated on our progress.

As for the training place that I was going to send them... it's been a week since I called. I take it they're not calling me back. So I am dealing with a different trainer now. I will let you know how that goes.
 

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if you believe me enough how much did you buy the book for?
 

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I honestly don't know. I never look at price tags. My son got a couple books, and I had that one... I think my total came up to $40-something. I am guessing it cost around $15-20? Not sure. Did you want a copy? I am sure they would have it at your local library also. I got mine from Barnes & Noble.
 

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I bought it on the weekend, Alot of it makes total sense, its really neat. I am about 1/3 though it as well. He definately has a way with dogs :)
 

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i want a copy because everything on the show says "do not do without a professional". The one with the dog from the country (like mine) i wanted to try but not risk being stupid or doing something stupid. I want to pick up a copy, but BILLS and RENT.
 

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i want a copy because everything on the show says "do not do without a professional". The one with the dog from the country (like mine) i wanted to try but not risk being stupid or doing something stupid. I want to pick up a copy, but BILLS and RENT.
they just say that to cover thier butts. I don't see anything he does that looks to difficult to attept by yourself.
 

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I almost bought that book, but it was on sale for $18 dollars at Barnes and Noble :shock: Plus, i've read so many dog phycology books from the library, i'm afraid if I read one more i'll turn into a dog whisperer *shivers*! LOL, i'm just kidding, wouldn't that be funny though? Now presenting, The Dog Whisperer.....junior.

Instead, I got this really great book called "Marley & Me" By John Grogan. Anyone ever read it?? It's REALLY good.
 

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Instead, I got this really great book called "Marley & Me" By John Grogan. Anyone ever read it?? It's REALLY good.
Wonderful book. Have the kleenex handy. (or maybe I'm just a big weenie)
 

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Chynasmom said:
ambulldogpup said:
Instead, I got this really great book called "Marley & Me" By John Grogan. Anyone ever read it?? It's REALLY good.
Wonderful book. Have the kleenex handy. (or maybe I'm just a big weenie)
I'm reading that right now! I haven't cried yet, but I'm not all the way through it.
 

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Chynasmom said:
ambulldogpup said:
Instead, I got this really great book called "Marley & Me" By John Grogan. Anyone ever read it?? It's REALLY good.
Wonderful book. Have the kleenex handy. (or maybe I'm just a big weenie)
I too am a big weenie ... I cried like a baby! It was a great book!
 

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Sorry to interrupt this, lol... :tongue:

Today things have been going great. The dogs seem to be much more calm. Heaven is still testing me a bit. When I call her to come inside, she stares at me for a moment. If I speak to her hastily (when I am impatient) she continues to stare, wondering if she can get away with staying outside longer. (She doesn't like being indoors.) I try to speak slowly and firmly, and then she usually comes prancing inside. I don't like having to ask more than once though, so that's another thing we're working on.

The new trainer says I have to bring H & K in their crates, his club's policy. Well I can't fit 2 crates in my car, nor can I get Koa into one. He resists, and he is stronger than me when he's being bull-headed. I will just have to keep looking for another trainer. Maybe someone will come out to my home.
 

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petsmart

if there is a petsmart near i would go there, you have to teach the dog yourself and train it yourself or the training takes a lot longer (is what i have heard, might be wrong). The petsmart trainers teach you the commands the dog already knows but you dont, so they actually train you.
 

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A lot of people told me Petsmart wasn't good, but I am in it and Deuce is doing really well. I wouldn't say they would be great at advanced training, but for basics its good so far.
 

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bigut64 said:
if there is a petsmart near i would go there, you have to teach the dog yourself and train it yourself or the training takes a lot longer (is what i have heard, might be wrong). The petsmart trainers teach you the commands the dog already knows but you dont, so they actually train you.
I took Heaven to PetsMart for her basics... I know all that stuff, so I don't think I'd benefit from another class. I am looking for someone who specializes in bullies, and for something far more advanced than PetsMart. I want them to one day be as obedient as police dogs.
 

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great thread I can't wait to hear more, I have been thinking of buying this as well. I often wondered about dogs sixth sense if you will, Trixie occasionally gets very alert and will huff at certain people, usually homeless or sketchy people walking the neighborhood..I always hought the smell had alot to do with it
 

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Re: petsmart

bigut64 said:
if there is a petsmart near i would go there, you have to teach the dog yourself and train it yourself or the training takes a lot longer (is what i have heard, might be wrong). The petsmart trainers teach you the commands the dog already knows but you dont, so they actually train you.
:newb: LOL
 

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ambulldogpup said:
bigut64 said:
if there is a petsmart near i would go there, you have to teach the dog yourself and train it yourself or the training takes a lot longer (is what i have heard, might be wrong). The petsmart trainers teach you the commands the dog already knows but you dont, so they actually train you.
:newb: LOL
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The advanced classes at petsmart are pretty damn impressive, they dont use leashes, cuz they dont have to. They have to walk, without leash, inbetween a line of ten people without showing that they know the people are there, like goin through cones kinda. They have to come when called from across the store, without any destractions, just to mention a few things.
 

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I'm sure the advanced training classes are pretty good. I honestly don't think they'd allow a pit bull to be running loose in PetsMart though. It's against the law, and they'd be accepting a huge liability. In the city where my PetsMart is, pit bulls have to be leashed and muzzled. I can't see PetsMart breaking the law just for class. I got away with Heaven being in puppy classes because at 4 mos, she looked like a boxer mix. Now at 15 mos, there's no way they will buy that.

I still haven't found a new trainer. I would really, really like to get them in the first place I checked... maybe I will just "show up" there on Monday, and inquire about their program. Since they can't answer the phone or return calls. My friend takes her Dobeys there, and says they are phenomenal. I hope I can get in.
 
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