I read on a recent threat about choke chains being used as collars but should only be used for training. I agree with the comment 100% but would like to add that traditional choke chains and pinch collars aren't good for any dog. The Pet food store I'm in the process of buying won't stock these type of chains. I just wanted to make people aware that there are choke collars available at most Pet stores. They are a nylon collar with a chain that pulls tight at the leash side not around the neck. I also found it interesting when buying my latest cage that there is a warning to remove any collar from dog embedded on the tray, it wasn't printed on my last one. The company has obviously had reports of dog deaths. I just wanted to let any new dog owners be aware of these two things. I wanted to give ChappsnHolly credit for pointing this out to the puppy owner.