I personally prefer them but it is rare that I have to use it ....I worked with a flat collar to begin withIs it easier to train with or without? ?
Depends on who you are asking and if you know how to use itOr is it considered cruel
I personally feel sorry for any dog forced to wear one of these devices. It makes the dog look pathetic and sad.We used to think these collars might be OK for training purposes with larger dogs. You've probably seen these around. These collars have a neck strap and a nose loop. But we have recently learned these too are not recommended by the experts. While these collars are not muzzles, nor do they "choke" an animal, they do apply pressure to the back of the dog's neck, effectively tilting the neck sideways and causing a dog discomfort and often creating the formation of "rub lines" across a dog's nose...not cool! One trainer we talked to said they also give other people the impression that your dog is "vicious." If you're taking your dog out in public, into dog parks, around children, etc., why would you want to make your dog seem mean and out of control? One of the Web sites we found that sell the Gentle Leader® collars calls them the, "Ten Minute Attitude Adjuster" and frankly, that attitude from humans makes us wince!
I agree with Andrew. These are just all tools and all can be used incorrectly. Frankly I prefer a halti or gentle leader to a choke collar because it requires a lot less power to control a dog who cannot walk on lead. Having been in ridgeback rescue for years I have had to rely on the halti to walk a dog with no leash manners - a choke would just have injured the dog otherwise. I don't think the you're in any danger breaking your dog's neck with a GL or halti any more than you're in danger of breaking a horse's neck with a bridle.Andrew said:I'm sure you COULD break a dogs neck with a snoot loop. I don't need a link to a web page to convince me of that. I bet I could choke my dog to death with a choke collar if I strung her to a tree with it and I could most likely put a prong through her throat if I were so inclined.
These are all simply tools we use to train our dogs to do what we want. If we choose to use them otherwise, or in an inhumane way, than perhaps it is we that are the problem and not the tool or the dog.
You really don't need to feel bad for my pup. Her daddy loves her.