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Crate Issues/Video Set-Up--Advice Needed

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OK, I have a question about crate training. First of all, Mo had a terrible day the other day. He got diarhea(sic) while he was crated. I guess he didn't want to sit still in it (don't blame him) so he thrashed around and figured out a way out of the crate (by getting the bottom latch open and bending the door).

The next day I secured the door and went to work. He managed to work his way through the top gate.

I secured the top door with bailing wire and went to work the next day. I came home and AGAIN, he got out of the crate. This time he got one of the latches open then forced his way out of the door again. (I had only secured the middle, letting him bend open either end)


THE SET UP.

Today I wired all the latches and doors securely and we set up the camcorder and left for dinner.

We came back and he seemed fine and secure in the crate. We watched the dvd, which topped out at 20 minutes, and he HOWLED the whole time. He was very deliberate with his attempts to open the latches with his teeth. He tried to force his way out of the top again. It went on until the dvd stopped.

There doesn't seem to be much anxiety associated with the crate itself. He laid down in it while we watched the dvd and had no problem going into it before we left.

Has anyone experienced similar problems and how did you remedy them?

Is he just howling today because he has been able to get out the past three times? Is he going to settle with the crate again?
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cannon said:
OK, I have a question about crate training. First of all, Mo had a terrible day the other day. He got diarhea(sic) while he was crated. I guess he didn't want to sit still in it (don't blame him) so he thrashed around and figured out a way out of the crate (by getting the bottom latch open and bending the door).

The next day I secured the door and went to work. He managed to work his way through the top gate.

I secured the top door with bailing wire and went to work the next day. I came home and AGAIN, he got out of the crate. This time he got one of the latches open then forced his way out of the door again. (I had only secured the middle, letting him bend open either end)


THE SET UP.

Today I wired all the latches and doors securely and we set up the camcorder and left for dinner.

We came back and he seemed fine and secure in the crate. We watched the dvd, which topped out at 20 minutes, and he HOWLED the whole time. He was very deliberate with his attempts to open the latches with his teeth. He tried to force his way out of the top again. It went on until the dvd stopped.

There doesn't seem to be much anxiety associated with the crate itself. He laid down in it while we watched the dvd and had no problem going into it before we left.

Has anyone experienced similar problems and how did you remedy them?

Is he just howling today because he has been able to get out the past three times? Is he going to settle with the crate again?
Sounds like separation anxiety. If that's it the only thing that will cure it IMO is time. In the meanwhile what do you put in the crate to occupy him? Would you consider a stuffed frozen kong? Something with a mixture of cream cheese, kibble and a boiled egg - frozen would keep him occupied. If you go that route be sure this is a substitute for a meal or he'll get really fat!

Paula
Well, he gets a Kong with peanut butter, and he gets a kong bone with two milkbones hidden inside. he also has his nylabone.

I should add that he had a small kong and before he did his assault on the crate he finished his Kong.

With he exception of the Sh!tstorm day, he was non destructive in the house. Just seemed to be chillin in the apartment when I came home.
I think he was fine as long as he thought that there was not a way out - now he knows there is.
I think it is time for a new and different crate. One that has a better/different latching system for sure. They can get bored in their crate, but most of the time they just sleep through this time. But now that he knows what to do to get out, he is keeping himself occupied with it.
Right, but even after being crated today he went and hung out in the crate.

I think the crate is OK, I have secured it to the point that he is not going to escape. We filmed him the first time it was secure and knew we were gonna see him trying to get out. We were suprised at how much he bit at the latches. I am worred about his teeth if this continues.....will he continue to try or will he give up soon and settle?
Oh, I think they love their crates, it is just a thing with him now to figure out how to get out of it.
He could hurt his teeth if he bit wrong, he might get bored with the idea of getting out if he sees he cannot do it anymore - just going to have to monitor him. Good idea using the video.
:D
Yeah, we were shocked watching it. The howling.....I just can't even describe what it sounded like. Gutteral comes close. It was like a death moan! :shock:
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