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My APBT Ava, long before she had any protection training while living the good life as a family pet had a live bite on an intruder. She would most certainly bite an intruder for real. I can have company over and she doesn't need to be put up, you just wouldn't want to try slipping in through a window or come barging through the door.
It's that Chinaman blood. ;)
 

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Wait what??? An intruder is an intruder what difference does it make if they're passive or threatening? Is there a difference between an armed and unarmed burglar it's still a burglar.
 

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Wait what??? An intruder is an intruder what difference does it make if they're passive or threatening? Is there a difference between an armed and unarmed burglar it's still a burglar.
I understand what you are saying. Any intruder deserves to get his ass shredded. However any dog will bite an intruder who freezes in his tracks or backs away immediately at the first site of a dog. But take the crazy crack head who is out of his mind and not afraid to keep coming forward acting aggressively himself.....not all dogs would have the nerve to engage someone like that. that's why I asked what the expectations were of the OP. I know lots of dogs who would bite someone who didn't pressure them but would take off running if they encountered anyone with some guts or too high to care.
 

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I now understand what you're saying. Out of the dogs we have Ava and Comanche would engage an intruder passive or aggressive. Capone would engage but would need some stimuli to get him moving.
 

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I also didn't take passive as meaning retreating. To me passive can still have forward motion. Wouldn't someone sweet talking your dog while moving forward be considered passive?
 

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I took passive as being still; not active.
IME a passive bite is one where you command your dog to bite a decoy sitting in a chair and providing no threat, movement, fight or anything to get the dog going. The dog bites because you told them to. Period.
 

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I think for most "intruders" an aggressively barking , growling etc dog would set them back kinda like the "racking " of a round into a pump shotgun....it is quite the deterrent to most. ;) ( but such a sweet sound )
would mine attack ? I doubt very seriously , as soon as I was to enter the picture they would both most likely be behind me.
I have had dogs in the past that i really think would if there were any aggressive movements by the intruder
 

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When I said passive, I meant someone who is more or less just being neutral. Not necessarily still, but not acting aggressive either.

I agree that most dogs of med-large size will deter the average person from breaking into a home. Most people would rather chose another house than stick around and find out how tough the dog is.

Depending on a person's idea of what a guard dog should be, the dog may not necessarily have to possess strong character or even strong defense drive in order to fit that bill.
 

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When I said passive, I meant someone who is more or less just being neutral. Not necessarily still, but not acting aggressive either.

I agree that most dogs of med-large size will deter the average person from breaking into a home. Most people would rather chose another house than stick around and find out how tough the dog is.

Depending on a person's idea of what a guard dog should be, the dog may not necessarily have to possess strong character or even strong defense drive in order to fit that bill.
The same goes for houses with alarms, I asked the police about this and they said they go to very few breakins that have dogs. I think Zeus would make enough noise to make sure the intruder knew he was their, I'm not sure how he would react if confronted.
 

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Do you guys remember a video of a neighbor beating his wife in the street and the neighbors pitbull went after the guy cause of what he was doing...

My AB would like the intruder silly...and my huskey would sniff his croche:)

Nitro would scar him with his bark but once inside another story..
 

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My mastiff would and does put on a good show but there is nothing behind it, she lacks nerve for sure.

Although I have seen her try and defend the family against other animals, dogs... but a person is different.

But I think the fact that nobody really wants to find out what she is going to do is what keeps people away.

she sits on a couch in front of our front window (all night) and watches
 

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I think all u guys are seriously underestimated ur dogs and they're ability to sense when things are wrong and the will to survive. IMO
Lol. I think we know our dogs pretty well. Pitbulls are usually people friendly. It's sort of a breed characteristic. So I don't think I'm underestimating my dog. Murphy will bark and bark and bark at something strange, but I've seen him run away from a plastic bag blowing in the wind. Pretty sure he wouldn't be attacking anyone.

In other news I have a story. Lucy is officially adopted and I received her med and temperment records yesterday. She needs to be microchipped and she needs a heartworm test. So the adoption coordinator said animal control will do it for free if I bring her in. That's awesome, I said, what are the dates and times? Mon-fri 10am-2. Well I work during the day, I told her. So this lady goes "we can have someone stop by your house and take her for you". Excuse me? I know you mean well, but I've never met you, you've never met my dogs, and you want to come into my house while I'm not there and take my dog? Who would be comfortable with that? I just said jon can bring her in next
week. Lol... Some people have great intentions, but just don't think logically.
 

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I think you are OVER estimating your dog, IMO.


My dog will make you pee your pants with his displays, but when push comes to shove, I think he's going to run. Do I HOPE he defends? Sure. Do I romanticize that like Lassie to the well, he will save my life? Sure. But I don't EXPECT it.
 

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Haha right! I mean, I'm like 99% sure neither would do anything. Lucy is in a crate in our bedroom, so Murphy would be the first contact to get into the house. I highly doubt he would even care. But still, I just don't have that kind of trust in people these days.
 
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