[Steph]

I think all u guys are seriously underestimated ur dogs and they're ability to sense when things are wrong and the will to survive. IMO

And the will to survive means nothing. Its the protection part. Not to mention, if you believe in all the dominant dog stuff, if YOU are the dominant one in the household, don't you think your dog will look to YOU to defend HIM? Thats the way I see it.

 

[oznog]

I really hope that none of our dogs ever have to be put in the position of having to go after an intruder, burglar,etc.Hopefully their mere presence will discourage the undesirables from paying a visit. That being said, I seriously discourage anyone from entering our actual house without an invite. This is especially true if one of the family members are home. I am not bragging or boasting, I have just witnessed enough of the dogs behavior to know what would probably happen. She is very well behaved when out in public and is well liked by all who get to know her.

 

[Dodo & Bull]

Congrats Steph on Lucy...Lucy s little girl..

 

[Lisa]

I think all u guys are seriously underestimated ur dogs and they're ability to sense when things are wrong and the will to survive. IMO

You do realize that the most natural reaction for a dog who is feeling threatened is to flee the situation correct? Dogs who possess the temperament to fight an aggressive intruder are the exception not the rule.

I would seriously like to know how you have formed the opinions you have? Real life experiences? If so can you describe the situation(s)? Experience with protection trained dogs? Police dogs? Security dogs? What exactly makes you feel so confident in your dogs ability to protect you from a threat?

 

[Nebguy]

You do realize that the most natural reaction for a dog who is feeling threatened is to flee the situation correct? Dogs who possess the temperament to fight an aggressive intruder are the exception not the rule.

That's what I was thinking too Lisa. It would take a real bad a** dog to go after a healthy adult, especially in a protection role.

 

[pballjunky420]

i have had many situations from a mutt to an EB to a pit arguments have broken out , or my kids being disciplined a road rage incident where a guy came to my window at a light screaming and ready to fight and my dog flew from the back sit onto my lap between us and growled and barked. Dogs are pack animals and will not just go pee in the corner if i pack member is in trouble. Now a intruder idk rob like u said would hide but i highly doubt ur wife alone screaming with someone trying to hurt her ur dog would just wag his tail or hide under the bed. Maybe im wrong but thats my feelings. All the protection training i feel is sharpening and bringing out skills ur dog already posses not giving them the ability. Like i said just my option.

 

[Cinder]

My guess is your dog was being more territorial than protective.

 

[pballjunky420]

My guess is your dog was being more territorial than protective.

lol, could be

 

[Steph]

Ok but has your dog attacked someone who meant harm? My guess is no. Dogs can put on a good show, however an actual ATTACK is wayyyyy different.

 

[pballjunky420]

i pulled him back from biting the guy, if u all intervene when ur dog is "putting on a good show", how do u know if its just for show. He was snapping at the guy every time he yelled as i held his collar. Im pretty sure if i let go the dude would get bit. Everyone has said about a intruder but u all 100% honestly think that someone cld assault u in ur home while ur screaming and ur dog will do nothing to help? Maybe im delusional but i just dont see it, or maybe im confusing territory and protection.

 

[Steph]

i pulled him back from biting the guy, if u all intervene when ur dog is "putting on a good show", how do u know if its just for show. He was snapping at the guy every time he yelled as i held his collar. Im pretty sure if i let go the dude would get bit. Everyone has said about a intruder but u all 100% honestly think that someone cld assault u in ur home while ur screaming and ur dog will do nothing to help? Maybe im delusional but i just dont see it, or maybe im confusing territory and protection.

No I don't.

 

[Cinder]

Have you ever seen the guy in the bar talking a huge game while his buddies hold him back? What happens when they let him go? Nothing.

 

[pballjunky420]

wow, ok ive said my peace.

 

[Lisa]

Whether or not a dog will bite someone depends on so many things.

Whether or not a dog will bite someone and stay on that bite until commanded to let go is something else to consider.

Again, it comes down to...

one's definition of "guard" or "protect".

Does guard dog mean...

a dog that will bark when a stranger enters the property

a dog that will bite someone who enters their property regardless of intent (no discretion)

a dog that will only bite if a physical threat is being made towards it or it's owner(s)

a dog that will bite and stay committed to the bite until commanded to let go even if if the intruder is fighting back, attempting to hurt the dog etc.

Something else to consider....

If you were in a bar and someone walked up to you and started punching you for no reason, but you just stood there and took it or tried to walk away, would you consider the person who attacked you to be a "tough guy"? Obviously not because you never attempted to fight back. Most people, when encountered with an aggressive dog are going to either freeze in their tracks or back away so of course the dog is going to appear confident. With many dogs, you will see that confidence fade pretty quickly when they actually encounter a person that will come forward at them with aggression (taste of their own medicine so to speak).

See what I mean when I say it depends on your expectations or definitions?

does "protect" or "guard" = strong character? Not necessarily.

 

[pballjunky420]

Whether or not a dog will bite someone depends on so many things.

Whether or not a dog will bite someone and stay on that bite until commanded to let go is something else to consider.

Again, it comes down to...

one's definition of "guard" or "protect".

Does guard dog mean...

a dog that will bark when a stranger enters the property

a dog that will bite someone who enters their property regardless of intent (no discretion)

a dog that will only bite if a physical threat is being made towards it or it's owner(s)

a dog that will bite and stay committed to the bite until commanded to let go even if if the intruder is fighting back, attempting to hurt the dog etc.

Something else to consider....

If you were in a bar and someone walked up to you and started punching you for no reason, but you just stood there and took it or tried to walk away, would you consider the person who attacked you to be a "tough guy"? Obviously not because you never attempted to fight back. Most people, when encountered with an aggressive dog are going to either freeze in their tracks or back away so of course the dog is going to appear confident. With many dogs, you will see that confidence fade pretty quickly when they actually encounter a person that will come forward at them with aggression (taste of their own medicine so to speak).

See what I mean when I say it depends on your expectations or definitions?

does "protect" or "guard" = strong character? Not necessarily.

very goo points, i dont think a dog would bite and latch on like a traind shctz dog but i do think it wld bite if it seen u in harm. I think ur dog wld try and help might not be effective but i dont see him licking the attacker or hiding as u scream and struggle with an attacker. Who knows lol , I hope to never find out

 

[PerfectPit]

I think Beastley would bite out of fear. He is not around a lot of people other then family. Fat Boy would fight just because he is a butt. My husband has trained both to protect me in the sense that if I'm in danger of being hurt, they will protect me. My husband has even been bit by Fat Boy when he raised his hand to me in a joking matter but Fat Boy was concerned for my safety because I was making loud noises. We once did have a "guard dog" and we were still robbed. We knew it was by someone who knew us because they knew the dogs vice. Oreo cookies, the crumbs were all over the house and he was laying like a stuffed pig when we came home to an empty house.

 

[Lisa]

I think Beastley would bite out of fear. He is not around a lot of people other then family. Fat Boy would fight just because he is a butt. My husband has trained both to protect me in the sense that if I'm in danger of being hurt, they will protect me. My husband has even been bit by Fat Boy when he raised his hand to me in a joking matter but Fat Boy was concerned for my safety because I was making loud noises. We once did have a "guard dog" and we were still robbed. We knew it was by someone who knew us because they knew the dogs vice. Oreo cookies, the crumbs were all over the house and he was laying like a stuffed pig when we came home to an empty house.

Your husband trained your dogs to protect you? How did he do that?

 

[2bully]

Threads like this one make me laugh. So many speak out on things that they have no knowledge of. Give me a rolled up newspaper and I 'll show you how quickly your dog will run. It's easy for a dog to look tough behind a door or being held back when no real threat is being presented to them. Most dogs don't have it in them to protect. It's comical when you really think about it. How long have dogs been bred to have bite inhibition towards humans? How many threads are there about teaching a pup bite inhibition? Now people want to weigh in that somehow after being selected and taught not to bite that a certain set of circumstances will override all that.

It's a special dog that has the courage and character to be willing to stand toe to toe with a man. To think otherwise is foolish.

 

[Steph]

Threads like this one make me laugh. So many speak out on things that they have no knowledge of. Give me a rolled up newspaper and I 'll show you how quickly your dog will run. It's easy for a dog to look tough behind a door or being held back when no real threat is being presented to them. Most dogs don't have it in them to protect. It's comical when you really think about it. How long have dogs been bred to have bite inhibition towards humans? How many threads are there about teaching a pup bite inhibition? Now people want to weigh in that somehow after being selected and taught not to bite that a certain set of circumstances will override all that.

It's a special dog that has the courage and character to be willing to stand toe to toe with a man. To think otherwise is foolish.

Thank you!!!!

However, once our family dog bit my ex boyfriend in the butt because he was dancing on me. But that dog is just kinda stupid. It was awesome tho.

 

[oznog]

It is without a doubt true that most dogs will back down from a confrontation with a human. Some will not back down and you never know how a dog will react until the moment of truth. I am not willing to assume that every dog will back down.