Yes I am getting a male from Troy, not the one with the black lip though, but the one with the large white-head and dark brindle body. You probably know the one I am talking about lol, he's got the largest head of the litter and the only one with an all white head. I am then getting a female from a breeder who constantly works his dog (Loki) in ring and is working on trialing him for his brevet, and is VERY close. He has his scoresheet and is very close to being prepared to trial, has everything down that needs to be done but is finishing him off well before trialing this year. He works Loki consistently at Red Star Presa's down in the US. You may have heard of this club. The trainer I will be working with here in Canada has actually decoyed for RB's at Red Star Presa's and really liked those dogs. He told the handler to pursue ring with his RB.
Wayne has been working OB on Loki for a couple years now and has put a lot of time and effort into training with him...TONS of hard work. You probably know of the breeder. it's Patriot Bulldogs. He is big on working his dogs and placing his dogs in working homes whenever he can. I've also recently been speaking with Jody along with both breeders and if all goes well with these dogs I am getting (health, temperment, etc), I will be joining them as part of the RBKC, and they encourage a breeding between these two bloodlines as it will be a very nice + close line-breeding, should be a good mix of Titan's bullier dogs with the less-bully type that Patriot has. I'm hoping it will create a good well-balanced cross between the two, and it should. Considering they share many dogs in their ped and it is a close line-breeding, this should produce some very nice dogs indeed, just what I would personally look for in a bulldog, as well as add consistency to what is being produced.
I am also hoping that starting the dog's imprinting and training from an early age will also give me an edge at eventually placing a title on at least one of them in the program. I will be training them in Belgian Ring, and would be aiming for a Cat IV and then hopefully at least a BR3 with one of them. It will take a lot of work but I think it is possible with these guys. They definately have the drives and spirit for it, and other trainers agree. It's just that most people do not have the patience to go far with their bulldogs. Peter is right though about the OB...with these dogs it will take extra time and effort to get OB down. I was told that it was hard work just to get a clean out, because of the amount of drive in Loki, but it is possible and he has achieved that with him now...after investing a lot of time and effort.
I am assuming you are getting an RB out of Warrior Bulldogs? I know they are expecting a litter in the close future if I am not mistaken.
ps: Peter - is the OB that is necessary for SchH not more difficult? It was my understanding that the tracking and OB portions of SchH is much more involved and a lot more difficult than in ring?