As would I. But some people don't think about the dogs. They only think of what the dog can do for their ego.jayse2303 said:People are so cruel, why would anyone want a dog that's gonna have all sorts of problems cause they have been bred to be big. I'd rather have a healthy dog anyday.
Dogs like this should NEVER be called a pit, they should think of a new name for them, its a discrace to APBT. Poor dogs. Did you see the prices they are going for :shock: $6000.00????kogeki said:If you're a miller like Mugleston then you make money.
And produce poor pathetic 100lb pits like this and advertise them as "massively short" #-o
Yeah, its disgusting. I dont know who the hell would want a dog like that. The poor animals are going to have so many health problems. A few of their dogs are even bow legged. Its hard to even look at them.Bremner53 said:Dogs like this should NEVER be called a pit, they should think of a new name for them, its a discrace to APBT. Poor dogs. Did you see the prices they are going for :shock: $6000.00????
I agree. What's disgusting it the first line on her bio:Bremner53 said:http://muglestonspitbullfarm.com/females/sugar.html
This is the ONLY dog on their site that I thought looked like a pit should.
so basically they are saying they are breeding for dogs that DONT look like pit bulls?!?!?!?HausMommy said:I agree. What's disgusting it the first line on her bio:Bremner53 said:http://muglestonspitbullfarm.com/females/sugar.html
This is the ONLY dog on their site that I thought looked like a pit should.
"Sugar is definitely our baby. She is no doubt my wife's pride and joy. She is certainly in no way a representation of Mugleston's Pitbull Farm and is in no way what we are breeding for. In fact, in most ways she is the opposite of what we are breeding for."
What are you talking about? First of all no one is really even talking about show dogs and second of all how is standing in the ring and moving your dog around it a couple times CRUEL? You mean to tell me a working dog such as an AB isn't capable of such a simple task?What I don't understand is why do you have to buy a puppy to breed that is show bound. But if you ask me I think that is cruel.
YES, but first, you have to understand what a good temperament is, and most people don't understand that , especially when you are dealing with a working breed.What if you just have a good, nice tempermant family pet that you want to spread for other families to enjoy?
Why does everyone assume I am a breeder? Just because I speak out against irresponsible breeding means I must be breeding myself? Why, because you figure I am trying to scare off the competetion? Anyone who thinks this couldn't be more wrong. I am not going to say that I will never breed but one thing for certain is that it won't be done for the reason of filling the pet market and padding my pockets. It will be done for ME first (I would have to be in the market for a pup or 2 myself) and only if I have a waiting list of others who are interested in a pup from a particular breeding as well...I wonLisa, how did you get into breeding? Did you have formal training and materials, or does it come from experience
Because the more people that know about them the more people who will want to irresponsibly breed them! The more people who breed, the more excess, the more CRAP that is produced and good homes for bully breeds just aren't all that common.Why do you want to keep AB's not popular? I think they are great family dogs and that is what a lot of people look for.
The only way you are going to accomplish that is by listening to what everyone is telling you and by working and showing dogs yourself. Learn how to indentify strengths and weaknesses. Learning about proper temperament, health problems, genetics (in breeding, linebreeding, outcrossing, COI)..do you even know what I am talking about ?? If you want the respect of the AB community you are definitely not going to get it by breeding any 2 dogs that happen upon your yard that you haven't even bothered to try proving.I would like to become a nationally known breeder but that would take a long time
My gosh, the more of your posts I read, the more I want to bang my head against a brick wall. Working dog stuff cruel? WTF? Why do you think so many breeds were developed in the first place? The majority of breeds were bred for a specific task, even the Labrador is supposed to be a working dog (Retriever) but the backyard breeders have destroyed that breed too! What should we do Rachel? Ruin another magnficent working breed because you think its cruel to have your dog do anything but lay on a couch? Geeeezzzz, then you wonder why people are all over you. AmazingBut what I still don't understand is why everyone thinks that AB's are not good family pets, because from my two I believe they are great family pets. And There temperments are not too strong for a family. I personally would feel more secure with my AB's to be around when I have children then a Labrador. I also see that everyone is all about this working dog stuff. Well, I personally find that cruel.
Ok, you have now revealed that you don't even know the lineage of your dogs but you want to breed? Then you wonder why people are upset?My male is a Johnson type and I got him from a breeder here in the area. My female is........ I thought Bully, but everyone corrected me and there is no bully type.
What kind of registry is that? I think you got scammed.Bandit(male) is registered with Dog Registry of America, Inc.
This statement alone tells me that you should not even think about breeding. You do not have to mistreat a dog for it to have aggressive tenedecies. Sometimes they are just dominant and their owners don't have the skills to handle them orMy mom has a mean dog and I can't stand that dog. I don't understand why she is mean, because we never treated her bad or did things to make her mean.
More ignorance. You can't lump all GSD's together just like you can't lump all APBT's together. The GSD's you are referring to were probably backyard bred POS with horrible nerves that would probably never in a million years make a good police dog. I myself have seen several like this but I have also seen some very good ones. Remember, the more popular the breed, the more crappy ones there are out there, because people breeding don't know what they are doing! And, FYI dogs used in Police work or for personal protection should very well be able to be in a social situation. (Didn't you view my post with all the pictures) If a dog can't be trusted in a public place, how could it do its job? Again, like I said to LED, educate youself on what constitutes proper working temperament!!!!Well, my mom has a half lab and half german sheaperd. I personally feel that german sheaperds are mean dogs. I have known quite a few sheaperds in my life and all of them for no reason were mean, but I think that is because alot of them are bred for police dogs, so they have to be aggresive. But man I was hoping my moms dog would have more lab in it.
What is "show talented" and do you even know the difference between a show dog and working dog?I classify a working dog as, a dog that is show talented,
What makes you think we are all women?Stewie Griffin said:Opinions are like buttholes, Everyone has one and it stinks :-&
There is a difference between opinions and trying humilating someone.
My Dads a Dr. He said those are not Opinions, it's PMS.
I took the liberty to do some research on PMS for you ladies.:wink:
What is PMS?
Hate to jump into this but the UKC ruined the breed that is exactly why the ADBA was started. This post is not intended for Bella only.bella_blue said:So, you would breed your dog knowing full well that you don't know what the hell you are doing?? People like you are ruining the bully breeds.
Its the show dog mentality that promotes earcropping. Tail cropping should not be done on a pitbull since its a tool they use for balance and jumping. I was told that a judge would not like my female if her ears were not cropped. So I should go out and subject my 1500 investment to earcropping which could kill her so a UKC judge might like her and put her up. Ear cropping was desirable in the fighting days to prevent the ears from becoming ripped off during a fight.Rachel Casey said:Speaking of cruel things. What does everyone think of cropping ears and tales? I have a friend that has a pure bread pit bull or bull staffors terrior or what ever they are called, and he wants to crop his ears and tale. I told him that was mean and Zeus is cute the way he is. My friend and I use the same vet, and our vet set he won't just do it, purely for my friends enjoyment. He said if there was a medical reason he would, but basically he told my friend that he won't do it. I was so happy that my vet said that.