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Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get bullies use to this?

I have been trying a wide range of collars, choke collars, pinch collars.. Everything and nothing is working to keep Toby under control when we see other dogs on walks.

I can't change routes.. Everywhere we go we see other dogs.. He does a high pitched bark, snarles, jumps in the air... And nothing I have used so far has been able to keep all four feet on the ground. I want to him tolerate just seeing other dogs in public. Not near them, not anything.. Just to see them from 15-20ft or more away.

I just want him to get use to this before we go to the trainers in February...

Any suggestions?
 

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The trainer we were going to fitted the prong for us.. And its always on the same.. He jus ignores it completely to try and charge afte other dogs... He has never and could never get away from me (at 5'0 and 115lbs I can easily handle him being 90lbs) and I don't plan on ever letting that happen to find out if he wants to attack because from watching his attactions, thats clearly what he has his mind set on.

I took him for a bit of a walk until he felt comfortable with it enough for me to make the corrections I needed without resisting and bucking like a wild horse. After that, I walked by a house that has out of control dogs behind a privacy fence that he makes a scene about to see if I could correct the wrong behavior. The first time.. Not to good.. The second time (about 5 minutes later) I got him to walk by with a little bit of a whine and he sat on the sidewalk by the fence.

I think the halti gives me a lot more control over his head.. which is where I need it.. With the prong or anything else he snaps at my hands to let him go or he grabs the leash and tugs to get it out of my hands.. He's on a mission when it comes to other dogs.. When he went to go at my hands the first time past I could easily jerk him away from that and get him under control..

I just need some tips on this halti thing to steer his mind away from bucking and flipping out when he hears or sees other dogs.
 

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When he sees or hears them is mind is blank to everything... He LIVES to play fetch and I've tried using tennis balls, squeek toys, treats.. everything... I just need some pointers until our trainer rehabs from her surgery.. She's the best around and I won't attempt using anyone else.. Just from talking to other trainers, they want my money more than trying to help him or if they want to help, they want to use negative reenforcements and I'm not for that at all..

My only other option is sending him away for training but I wouldn't trust anyone not to do anything to him if I'm not present.. The guy I'm referring to breeds and trains GSDs.. I've never gotten any referrals or heard anything about him dealing with aggression and what not.. He's a total lush with me and the immediate family (mine and my boyfriends) but anyone outside of that or any other dog he goes nuts..
 

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Towmater said:
If it is that he only acts this way when he sees other dog and walks fine until he does see a dog then maybe you need to make him summisive to other dog and let him/her know it is not ok to attack/go after with such intensity. if this is something you think is what you want to do let me know
After I posted this, I went home around 1-2am and my mom brought her dog back from her sisters (we moved and my parents stayed in an apartment with a no pet policy and took their dog to her sisters). The minute Toby walked up the steps to the house from the sidewalk he started flipping out because he could smell her dog. He wanted to kill him. Theres no doubt about that! And it made me so mad because we've had her dog for 5 years so oviously Toby grew up with him and I could always trust them together. The next day I made him be submissive to my mothers dog. I put a muzzle on him (just in case) and made him lay on his back while my mothers dog sniffed him. Toby's 90lbs and I'm 124 but 5'0 so I had to almost lay ontop of him. Its been about a week now but after two days he is fine again... He lets my mothers dog hump him out of dominance and actually enjoys every minute of it and you can tell by the look on his face! So I think that will be one of the things I do.. But I'm definitely going to continue with the head halti.. It gives me complete control of his head and what direction he goes. And I know I'm using the prong right because he'll act up when we see rabbits, cats, or squirrels and he'll stop with one pop. But when he sees other dogs.. TOTALLY different story.
 
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