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For those of you who feel bad for the hogs hunted using hounds and bully's, read this story. No dogs were apparently involved with this hog, but it gives you an idea of what the dogs can be up against. And, for those of you who feel bad for the DOGS used in hog hunting, well, that's understandable. But, they apparently enjoy it. Anyway:

ALAPAHA, Georgia (AP) -- Around these parts, they are calling it Hogzilla: a 12-foot-long wild hog recently killed on a plantation and now quickly becoming a part of local legend.
The plantation's owner claims the hog weighed 1,000 pounds and had 9-inch tusks. But few people have actually seen the hog -- the only proof being a photo that shows the dead beast hanging from a rope.

Whether the hog ever actually existed or is some sort of Faulknerian myth, it has definitely been the topic of conversation in small towns across southern Georgia.

"People just back up and ask 'Is it real?' They can't believe that there's a hog that big in the woods," said Drew White, who has a copy of the photo on display at an auto parts store in Tifton, about 17 miles away.

Chris Griffin said he killed the beast last month at the River Oak Plantation, where he is a hunting guide, and has been showing off the picture around this small farming community ever since. The hog is nearly twice as long as the 6-foot-tall Griffin, who is seen standing next to it in the photo.

"They say 'Man, you look like a dwarf compared to that thing,"' he said Wednesday.

The picture is all Griffin has to back up his claims. He and Ken Holyoak, owner of the plantation, buried the beast on the property and did not want to hassle with slaughtering it since the meat of large feral hogs is typically not very good.

Holyoak said he decided that the hog's head also wasn't worth keeping because it was too large to mount on a wall. He said the head has the diameter of a tire on a compact car.

"We had to lift him with a backhoe," he said.

No one maintains official records on hog kills in Georgia. But Department of Natural Resources biologist Kent Kammermeyer, who helped write a booklet on feral-hog problems in the state, said he has never heard of one as large as Hogzilla.

Holyoak said the plantation's previous record was a 695-pound hog shot several years ago. Enough wild hogs roam Holyoak's plantation that he has made it a side business to allow people to hunt them, but he said "Hogzilla" was too big to let someone else shoot.

"We killed it because we didn't want to take a chance of him getting away. Somebody else would have shot it," he said.

Feral hogs, popularly known as wild hogs, are domestic hogs that escaped from farms and began living off the land. They lay waste to corn and peanut fields and deprive more than 100 species -- including squirrels and deer -- of food.

"It's a big problem and it's getting worse," Kammermeyer said. "If you have a lot of hogs, you're going to have problems. Hogs are very aggressive. They run deer off and they can be dangerous if wounded or cornered."

Holyoak said he had to climb into a deer stand a few years back to escape a raging hog that circled around for six hours, foaming at the mouth and snapping at branches.

"They say bears get mad when you mess with their babies," Holyoak said. "Hogs don't need a reason to get mad and come after you."


Story taken from truthorfiction.com and verified to be true, although it has been widely distributed on the internet.
 

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Thats a big a$$ hog. OMG, Heck, Id make my dogs leave it if i seen that coming, and haul a$$!
I have seen hogs gestroy cars and semis that have hit them, its an all too common thing here, but NEVER like that!!!

Bacon??Chops???ham????Dang, feed Ethiopia w/ that baby!
 

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JennKBM said:
I watched the Hogzilla special about this on TV. While it was a very large pig, it wasn't exactly as big as they had stated. Here is a little something extra on it..

http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/hogzilla.asp



Now THIS guy, if anyone has seen these pictures, was a true beast and is proved that he was over 1100 lbs... :shock:

http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/bighog.asp



Either way, you can bet your butt I wouldn't want to meet up with either one!
Exactly! Yeah, the one in the story I posted was dug back up and it was verified to be 7 1/2' long and 800+ lbs.

I've seen the one you posted before too, but had forgotten about it. That's another good site though.
 

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I saw them dig it up on National Geographic channel. It was huge, but not as big as they originally thought. It looked so much bigger because it was all streched out from hanging.
 

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if bullbaiting is illegal (as it rightfully should be) then why shouldn't hog dogging be illegal.
 

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Blockhead said:
if bullbaiting is illegal (as it rightfully should be) then why shouldn't hog dogging be illegal.
Please explain what YOU mean by bull baiting. It depends on your definition. Training a dog to hunt wild hogs, is illegal, which is nonsense. You're not legally allowed to put a dog inside a fenced area to teach/train the dog how to hunt them. But, it is legal, for now, to use dogs to hunt wild hogs IN THE WILD. I don't see anything wrong with either one as long as it's done properly and not for fighting or torturing the hogs.
 

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Amocat00 said:
Please explain what YOU mean by bull baiting. It depends on your definition.
"Bullbaiting" was a blood sport popular in England from Medieval times through the early 1800's, when it was outlawed. A bull was chained in an arena and a dog was released, with the aim of catching hold of the bull's nose and not releasing until the bull collapsed. It does NOT have anything to do with hunting (since bulls are domesticated) or with working cattle or other stock. A similar exhibition was "bear baiting," but the bear was generally chained by the neck and by one paw and baited by a pack of dogs.
 

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Chynasmom said:
Amocat00 said:
Please explain what YOU mean by bull baiting. It depends on your definition.
"Bullbaiting" was a blood sport popular in England from Medieval times through the early 1800's, when it was outlawed. A bull was chained in an arena and a dog was released, with the aim of catching hold of the bull's nose and not releasing until the bull collapsed. It does NOT have anything to do with hunting (since bulls are domesticated) or with working cattle or other stock. A similar exhibition was "bear baiting," but the bear was generally chained by the neck and by one paw and baited by a pack of dogs.
Well, then no wonder it was outlawed. That's not even close to hog dogging.
 

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Amocat00 said:
Well, then no wonder it was outlawed. That's not even close to hog dogging.
Yes, it was outlawed (along with bear baiting, dog fighting, and cock fighting) because people realized that setting two (or more) animals to fight/kill each other for the entertainment of observers is a pretty twisted way to pass the time.

On the assumption that "hog dogging" means hunting wild hogs with dogs, then that would be using dogs as hunting assistants, as they are used to hunt fox, field and water fowl, and boar (in Europe). I see a HUGE difference.
 

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Dogs have been used on hogs in one form or other for a long long time. Look at Old Yeller. True wild hog are a very dangerous animal having a dog with training time is a bonus since hogs have killed many good bulldogs. ***** have put a hurting on many green hounds also a little traing goes a long way.
 
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