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All these freakin dogs at the beach run up to your puppies like they are gonna attack???

I am doing my best trying to socialize my puppies so that they dont act like Dixie when out in public! I go to the local national memorial park which is a huge park with nature trails all through it, on the beach. It is absolutly gorgeous and I find peace of mind there, and enjoy watching the puppies play in the water and run on the sand.

You are allowed to bring LEASHED dogs to the park with you, if you scoop up after them and keep them leashed.

NO*freakin*body keeps their stupid dogs on a freakin leash!

Their dogs run up to the puppies like they are angry, barking, snarling, everything.

At first my pups would rasie their hackles, then let the dogs sniff them. Then we got to a point that my dogs would welcome them, until they got too nosey, like sticking their noses up the pups rearend to actually lift them off the gorund. Now because the dogs are becoming more and more, and act stupid, when they rush the pups, the pups are growling!

I have taught them to leave it and come on, but the loose dogs persist, making it hard for the pups to just leave it!
Some come at us and are soooo big, the pups will cower and shake!

I ahve contacted the park rangers, I have screamed at the people, I have kicked other dogs, what do I do???

I am afraid that my dogs are going to be forced to become aggressive just to get the other dogs to stop!

There is no where else to walk the dog where they can get this much socialization, there are a few good people who keep their dogs leashed.

I understand sometimes, like for swimming, but still you should be prepared to get your dog as soon as it gets within knee deep water again, instead of letting it wonder the trails.

There are mangroves tha tare thick, and people have their dogs swimming behind them, and when we approach, they come rampaging through the brush at us.
I have even been scared quite a few times, for my pups as well as for myself!

Id get mace, for the owners (LOL) really, but that stuff floats and might get on my pups.
 

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That really SUCKS!! There's a leash law here, too, although sometimes I wish there weren't I ALWAYS obey it!!! Come visit us here in New England anytime. People take that $h!t pretty serious here :wink:
 

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Next time Im out on LI, Ill stop by!!!

It really sucks, I have been contacting them for 2 years.

I have warned them, had my friend/attorney witness, that I have apbt, and if one day my dog gets aggressively rushed upon and something happens, it will not be my fault. The park ranger has apbt as well, and agreed. The letters are in file, so I have proof I have been trying to sort this out.

But he does nothing, maybe added one or two more signs, bug freakin deal!

The city has agreed not to discriminate against my breed or my dog, at that time it was Dixie who is animal aggressive, I was granted permission to try and train her there IF I had total control, and IF I did, anything that happened, would not be my fault.

If anything, this time I am threatening to sue the freakin park. I have plenty of proof of trying to resolve matters, and if anything happens to my pups, I will ge them, if no effort on their part was made to correct the problem!
 

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it's really good that you have all that documented history. Being proactive is always a good thing :wink: Stop by anytime, Harley loves to make new friends, too!
 

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I understand your frustration, but I'd stop the screaming and being pissed off because you might as easily convince your dogs there's something DEFINITELY worth worrying about.

Paula
 

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I think your going about it in the right way. Talk or write a letter to the local paper. call a local tv station about the problem. you never know just might work!
 

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I feel for you. Storms on a training program for her aggression and every single day dogs rush out of their yards to charge her. I physically have to return one dog to his owner , beautiful dog silly owner.

Can you contact your council to be there to enforce the law? If they can raise some money by handing out fines it'll be worth it to them.
 

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In all honesty if loose dogs are running up to your pups and acting aggressively all this socialization may end up backfiring on you. . If loose, aggressive dogs are always running up and causing trouble with your pups you may actually put your pups on the defensive and actully be causing a problem. What happens if one of your pups actually gets attacked? Now that pup will always be feeling the need to defend itself when out around other dogs. (it could cause an almost fear based aggression) Besides, as many people here will tell you, you can socialize a puppy until you are blue in the face and still end up with a dog aggression later on. I seriously think you should reconsider what you are doing. Not only could it end up a total waste of your time but it could also end up with bad results!! Having bullies out in a place where there are loose dogs running amok is an accident waiting to happen. Instead of spending all this time trying to "socialize" your pups to prevent future aggression, spend that time doing simple obedience/ foucs exercises and bonding with your pups so they learn to keep their attention on you when you demand it when out in public, rather than other dogs. If you teach them that concept early, it should help in preventing dog aggression because its kind of hard for them to be aggressive to other dogs when they are paying attention to you! I don't know how much spare time is available to you, but I know mine is fairly precious and I prefer to spend that time bonding with my pups and teaching them things rather than socializaing them with other dogs. I not only think it is a waste of time but in situations like you describe it can also be dangerous and counter productive!
 

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In all honesty if loose dogs are running up to your pups and acting aggressively all this socialization may end up backfiring on you. . If loose, aggressive dogs are always running up and causing trouble with your pups you may actually put your pups on the defensive and actully be causing a problem. What happens if one of your pups actually gets attacked? Now that pup will always be feeling the need to defend itself when out around other dogs. (it could cause an almost fear based aggression) Besides, as many people here will tell you, you can socialize a puppy until you are blue in the face and still end up with a dog aggression later on. I seriously think you should reconsider what you are doing. Not only could it end up a total waste of your time but it could also end up with bad results!! Having bullies out in a place where there are loose dogs running amok is an accident waiting to happen. Instead of spending all this time trying to "socialize" your pups to prevent future aggression, spend that time doing simple obedience/ foucs exercises and bonding with your pups so they learn to keep their attention on you when you demand it when out in public, rather than other dogs. If you teach them that concept early, it should help in preventing dog aggression because its kind of hard for them to be aggressive to other dogs when they are paying attention to you! I don't know how much spare time is available to you, but I know mine is fairly precious and I prefer to spend that time bonding with my pups and teaching them things rather than socializaing them with other dogs. I not only think it is a waste of time but in situations like you describe it can also be dangerous and counter productive!
Good idea~Maybe Ill just do that, and wait until they get the park under control, because yes, I do feel as if this is starting to backfire on me!!


Thanks!
 
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