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Hi. Could someone please help me with my dogs food. At the moment they are both eating Hills Prescription Diet j/d mobility which was recommended by the specialist after CoCo had knee surgery.
Ingredients: whole grain corn, chicken by product meal (I dont like the sound of that!!!) flaxseed, soy bean mill run, brewers rice, soybean meal, pork fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols and citric acid)chicken liver flavor, powdered cellulose, fish oil, potassium chloride, L-Lysine, calcuim carbonate, choline chloride, iodized salt, DL-methionine, vitamin e supplement vitamins (L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate (source of vitamin C, Vitamin E supplement, Niacin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Vitamin A supplement,calcium Pantothenate, biotin, vitamin B12 supplement, Pyridoxine hydrocloride, riboflavin, folic acid, vitamin D3 supplememtn, L-threonine, taurine, soy lecithin, glucosamine hydrocloride, minerals (ferrous sulfate, zinc oxide, copper sulphate, manganous oxide, calcium iodate, sodium selenite) L-tryptophan, L-carnitine peperserved with mixed tocopherols and citric acid, chondroitin sulfate, phosphoric acid, beta carotene, rosemary extract.
Guarantedd analysis:
crude protein min 17%..... 170g/kg
crude fat min 11%..... 110g/kg
crude fibre max 12%..... 120g/kg
moisture max 10.0%..... 100g/kg
ash max 5.5%..... 55g/kg
calcium min 0.45%..... 4.5g/kg
phosphorus min 0.3%..... 3g/kg
vitamin E min 450IU/kg..... 450IU/kg
Ascorbic acid (vitamin C) min 85 mg/kg..... 85mg/kg
caritine min 220 ppm..... 200mg/kg **
Omega 3 faty acids min 2.0%..... 20g/kg **
EPA min 0.25%..... 2.5g/kg**
**not recognised as an essential nutrient by the AAFCO dog food nutrient profiles
Sorry this is so long. I typed exactly what was on the bag (+/- a few spelling mistakes lol)
Can someone recommend a good quality food for joint health that I can get in Australia or know of a pet place that will ship to Australia?
Thanks.....I also have a question about feeding raw but will search the forums for that. Thanks. :)
Both the breeder and vet advised against Eukanuba. They were both on Advance prior to Hills but I found Newman didnt like it at all...CoCo eats the cats crap so what can I say.. lol.. she'll eat anything. Oh, and we are talking about dog biscuits (dry) right? Thanks.
 

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Hi. Could someone please help me with my dogs food. At the moment they are both eating Hills Prescription Diet j/d mobility which was recommended by the specialist after CoCo had knee surgery.
Ingredients: whole grain corn, chicken by product meal (I dont like the sound of that!!!) flaxseed, soy bean mill run, brewers rice, soybean meal, pork fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols and citric acid)chicken liver flavor, powdered cellulose, fish oil, potassium chloride, L-Lysine, calcuim carbonate, choline chloride, iodized salt, DL-methionine, vitamin e supplement vitamins (L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate (source of vitamin C, Vitamin E supplement, Niacin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Vitamin A supplement,calcium Pantothenate, biotin, vitamin B12 supplement, Pyridoxine hydrocloride, riboflavin, folic acid, vitamin D3 supplememtn, L-threonine, taurine, soy lecithin, glucosamine hydrocloride, minerals (ferrous sulfate, zinc oxide, copper sulphate, manganous oxide, calcium iodate, sodium selenite) L-tryptophan, L-carnitine peperserved with mixed tocopherols and citric acid, chondroitin sulfate, phosphoric acid, beta carotene, rosemary extract.
Guarantedd analysis:
crude protein min 17%..... 170g/kg
crude fat min 11%..... 110g/kg
crude fibre max 12%..... 120g/kg
moisture max 10.0%..... 100g/kg
ash max 5.5%..... 55g/kg
calcium min 0.45%..... 4.5g/kg
phosphorus min 0.3%..... 3g/kg
vitamin E min 450IU/kg..... 450IU/kg
Ascorbic acid (vitamin C) min 85 mg/kg..... 85mg/kg
caritine min 220 ppm..... 200mg/kg **
Omega 3 faty acids min 2.0%..... 20g/kg **
EPA min 0.25%..... 2.5g/kg**
**not recognised as an essential nutrient by the AAFCO dog food nutrient profiles
Sorry this is so long. I typed exactly what was on the bag (+/- a few spelling mistakes lol)
Can someone recommend a good quality food for joint health that I can get in Australia or know of a pet place that will ship to Australia?
Thanks.....I also have a question about feeding raw but will search the forums for that. Thanks. :)
I can't rate it but I can tell you a bit about the food. It's very grain heavy, it's predominately corn, chicken by product means it may not be meat, brewers rice is a low quality grain, Soy is a high allergen and the protein level is very low which shows that it doesn't contain much meat. They probably added liver flavor to enhance the taste.
 

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I can't rate it but I can tell you a bit about the food. It's very grain heavy, it's predominately corn, chicken by product means it may not be meat, brewers rice is a low quality grain, Soy is a high allergen and the protein level is very low which shows that it doesn't contain much meat. They probably added liver flavor to enhance the taste.
When listing the ingredients it sounded very "chemically" to me but then I dont know a lot lol. Do you know of a brand that is good for joints and "everything else" that I can get over here? I dont mind the $$$ given I paid a "crapload" for this "crap". Thanks.
 

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When listing the ingredients it sounded very "chemically" to me but then I dont know a lot lol. Do you know of a brand that is good for joints and "everything else" that I can get over here? I dont mind the $$$ given I paid a "crapload" for this "crap". Thanks.
Sorry I'm not sure what is available to you, I would be happy to help you read the label if you find can find something descent. Orijen has great joint support but I believe they pulled out of Australia as they were radiating the food when it was imported.
 

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Sorry I'm not sure what is available to you, I would be happy to help you read the label if you find can find something descent. Orijen has great joint support but I believe they pulled out of Australia as they were radiating the food when it was imported.
I will go to one of the bigger pet supply places and see what brands they have and let you know. I got the Hills because thats what the specialist suggested so am now concerned that if a specialist is suggesting a food that isnt very good our options over here might be limited. I imagine it would be +++ expensive to buy from the US and have it sent over?Thanks. :)
 

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I will go to one of the bigger pet supply places and see what brands they have and let you know. I got the Hills because thats what the specialist suggested so am now concerned that if a specialist is suggesting a food that isnt very good our options over here might be limited. I imagine it would be +++ expensive to buy from the US and have it sent over?Thanks. :)
When you say a specialist do you mean a Vet? Regular Vets and Vets with nutritional training (holistic vets) have totally different opinions on diets. If the kibble diets are limited I would personally go the raw route.
 

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That is a really good suggestion Paul. A raw diet might be your best option if the kibbles over there limited. There is a really great raw sticky either in this section or the health section. Here is a list of some brands to look for: Blue Buffalo, Taste of the Wild, Diamond Naturals, Merrick, DVP Natural Balance, Innova, EVO, Acana (not sure if they pulled out with Orijen since the same company makes them), Wellness, Instinct, Earthborn Holistic. That should get you started on your search.
 

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That is a really good suggestion Paul. A raw diet might be your best option if the kibbles over there limited. There is a really great raw sticky either in this section or the health section. Here is a list of some brands to look for: Blue Buffalo, Taste of the Wild, Diamond Naturals, Merrick, DVP Natural Balance, Innova, EVO, Acana (not sure if they pulled out with Orijen since the same company makes them), Wellness, Instinct, Earthborn Holistic. That should get you started on your search.
I remember another member mentioning that good kibble diets were hard to come by in Australia.
 

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Hi. Paulnzeus - the specialist is the guy who performed CoCo's surgery (as compared to our normal everyday vet). I dont know if either have any experience in nutrition though. I did a bit of surfing last night and found a store in Sydney that stocks a wide range of biscuits, quite a few of the names I have seen mentioned here. mstngchic2012 has also mentioned some of the ones that I saw. I dont know anything about biscuits but am learning that grain free is better. One that stood out for that reason was Canidae grain free all life stages and I can get that in a store about 10 minutes away. Is this a good food? (and given CoCo's joints would I have to add a supplement?) Others that I noted were Artemis, Wellness, Ultra Holistic (Nutro), Blue Buffalo, Holistic select/eagle and Innova Evo but still have to research if they are available locally. I would like to try the raw feeding and read a link that someone posted but dont think I could come to giving them a whole chicken/rabbit/whatever. I am prepared to give them raw meat minus the feathers/fur though. Would they still need biscuits if they were eating raw? Sorry to stray from the original topic but I really am clueless and only want to do the best for my guys. Thanks. :)
Should I be looking for holistic biscuits? Thanks.
 

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Hi. Paulnzeus - the specialist is the guy who performed CoCo's surgery (as compared to our normal everyday vet). I dont know if either have any experience in nutrition though. I did a bit of surfing last night and found a store in Sydney that stocks a wide range of biscuits, quite a few of the names I have seen mentioned here. mstngchic2012 has also mentioned some of the ones that I saw. I dont know anything about biscuits but am learning that grain free is better. One that stood out for that reason was Canidae grain free all life stages and I can get that in a store about 10 minutes away. Is this a good food? (and given CoCo's joints would I have to add a supplement?) Others that I noted were Artemis, Wellness, Ultra Holistic (Nutro), Blue Buffalo, Holistic select/eagle and Innova Evo but still have to research if they are available locally. I would like to try the raw feeding and read a link that someone posted but dont think I could come to giving them a whole chicken/rabbit/whatever. I am prepared to give them raw meat minus the feathers/fur though. Would they still need biscuits if they were eating raw? Sorry to stray from the original topic but I really am clueless and only want to do the best for my guys. Thanks. :)
Should I be looking for holistic biscuits? Thanks.
I would also give Canidae grain free a go!!! I like how you guys call them biscuits, we call them kibble :) Raw in my opinion is the best diet if done properly but grain free is the way to go if you are going to feed biscuits. Out of the list I also like Wellness Core, I would stay away from Innova as they were bought by P&G makers of Iams and Blue Buffalo just had a recall on their large breed formula. Make sure you do a transition from old to new, it's a completely different diet.
 

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Can't seem to find my OEB's food on here, figured i'd post stuff about it in hopes that someone who knows what they're doing can grade it for me.


Taste of the Wild
PACIFIC STREAM CANINE FORMULA - with Smoked Salmon

Protein: 25% Fat: 15%
Calcium: 1.9%, as-fed; Phosphorus: 1.1%, as-fed
Calories: 3,600 kcal/kg (360 kcal/cup) Calculated Metabolizable Energy
Available in 5lb, 15lb and 30lb bags.

Ingredients
Salmon, ocean fish meal, sweet potatoes, potatoes, canola oil, salmon meal, smoked salmon, potato fiber, natural flavor, salt, choline chloride, dried chicory root, tomatoes, blueberries, raspberries, yucca schidigera extract, dried fermentation products of Enterococcus faecium, Lactobacillus acidophilus, Lactobacillus casei and Lactobacillus plantarum, dried Trichoderma longibrachiatum fermentation extract, vitamin E supplement, iron proteinate, zinc proteinate, copper proteinate, ferrous sulfate, zinc sulfate, copper sulfate, potassium iodide, thiamine mononitrate (vitamin B1), manganese proteinate, manganous oxide, ascorbic acid, vitamin A supplement, biotin, niacin, calcium pantothenate, manganese sulfate, sodium selenite, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), vitamin B12 supplement, riboflavin (vitamin B2), vitamin D supplement, folic acid.
I have been debating switching him to one of the Solid Gold foods because so few places near me carry it, but I hesitate because he does so well with TOTW.
 

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TOTW is a great inexpensive grain free food. I fed it for a couple years. If your dog is doing great on TOTW then I wouldn't bother switching - if it ain't broke don't fix it ;)
Thing is I may be moving in the next few months and am unsure if there will be any place that carries it within a reasonable distance. If that were to be the case, I'm sure I could get SG or something comparable but I am unsure what I which to.
 

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I am reading this right I hope - Purina Pro Plan Sensitive Skin & Stomach received an A?? That's great. I am thinking of switching Morley's food - but was looking at the more expensive brands (also very rich, from what I understand). I didn't think Purina food was good though, so I guess I am just surprised.
 
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