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I'm not sure if this is already been covered or not, but I did a search and didn't really find anything.
All of the "pitbulls" that I have owned have always been found, rescues, etc. Now that I have Jaeger, I am learning that there are all different lines inside the APBT breed. How many different lines are there? Which are the best? Which are the worst? What is the difference?
I am waiting on Jaeger's pedigree, but I was talking to the breeder about it. He told me that Jaeger's sire is from Danger Zone. What does that mean? Is it a good or bad line, or just some sh** he made up?

Also, I was told that his coloring is called fawniquin? Is this a real color? I have also talked to people that said it is faulted coloring and he would be disqualified from showing, and should never be breed. Then other people tell me that any color is allowed for APBT, but it is not allowed in AST.
Here are a couple pictures of Jaeger's coloring.





Thanks for the info.
 

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I don't know about standards for apbt colors, but I gotta say that's pretty cool though. That first photo - looks like huge burned holes on his back 8) never seen those markings before
 

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There are different lines just like in any breed. Can't tell you a certain number but there are many, there are lines made from other lines and most lines can be traced back to a number of foundation dogs that are common ancestors in most APBTs. Once you get his pedigree back post the dogs on here and we can tell you about the dogs and lines.

As far as which are the best/worse is an opinion. Also different strains of different lines can be better/worse. Some of my favorite lines are Old Family Red Nose, GR CH Buck/CH Butkus (Buck was a Bolio-Tombstone dog his son Butkus was out of a Redboy/Jocko female I like both Bolio/Tombstone and RedBoy/Jocko lines as well in other strains), Boudreaux, to name a few. Some of the worse IMO would be most of the Razors Edge line, Grayline, Gotti because these dogs are bred for size and color which isn't what a true APBT is bred for, lack conformation and have serious structure problems and are known to have a number of health problems. There are many differences in lines, lines can be pretty distinct and recognizable in looks, build, temperament and traits.

From what I understand Danger Zone was pretty good dogs "back in the day" I guess you'd say, but lately I've seen a lot of large short and wide dogs from this line, I think people are breeding the line for color and looks.

There is no such recognized color as fawniquin. Your dog is rather unique looking but appears to be either a fawn/bluies or possible a fawn with black mask and ticking its hard to tell from the pics. Colors not exceptable and would be DQ'd in the APBT are Albino and Merle, so he could be shown and would not be disqualified. What color does it say he is on his papers. The reason he looks so odd or unique is because unlike most dogs with his color his white color breaks it up. The same goes for his black mask. If my ticked dog had white he'd appear the same. I do have a little guy who has the white on his face like there so therefore his mask is like your dogs, looks like he's been in a boxing match..lol

Anyway he's a pretty dog!
 

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From what I understand Danger Zone was pretty good dogs "back in the day" I guess you'd say, but lately I've seen a lot of large short and wide dogs from this line, I think people are breeding the line for color and looks.
What color does it say he is on his papers.
I think you are definitely right about them breeding the Danger Zone line to be bigger. Jaeger is 15 weeks and weighing in at 32lbs. His sire was 105lbs.
As for his papers, I haven't received them yet :cry:
 

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You should've recieved the papers with the dog (as well as the form to transfer ownership).

Now that's a pretty cool color, never seen that before. It reminds me of the old western flicks where they show paper burned around the edges. No such color as the one given, but like someone else said the only DQ colors are merle and albino. You can see more about the true APBT standards on this site: http://www.apbtconformation.com/ they even have a page showing all the colors.

It sounds like this breeder took the word "harrequin" and changed it up to sound rare. I'm not sure if that color is found in pit bulls, but I've seen it in Great Danes.
 

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PitBullRoyalty said:
You should've recieved the papers with the dog (as well as the form to transfer ownership).
You do get the papers and must send them in to transfer ownership and also to send in for the pedigree. I'd really like to know the pedigree once he gets them back...Please share. :D
 

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I'm not sure if this is already been covered or not, but I did a search and didn't really find anything.
All of the "pitbulls" that I have owned have always been found, rescues, etc. Now that I have Jaeger, I am learning that there are all different lines inside the APBT breed. How many different lines are there? Which are the best? Which are the worst? What is the difference?
I am waiting on Jaeger's pedigree, but I was talking to the breeder about it. He told me that Jaeger's sire is from Danger Zone. What does that mean? Is it a good or bad line, or just some sh** he made up?

Also, I was told that his coloring is called fawniquin? Is this a real color? I have also talked to people that said it is faulted coloring and he would be disqualified from showing, and should never be breed. Then other people tell me that any color is allowed for APBT, but it is not allowed in AST.
Here are a couple pictures of Jaeger's coloring.





Thanks for the info.

I believe DanerZone Chocolate/ Rednose line. They have a lot of drive. Some ******** down here use them for Hog hunting. They can grow pretty big upwards 100 lbs. They're mostly ABDA registered. These rednose pits are some of the toughest dogs I've ever seen.

Here is the pedigree to the dog in Which the line is based on
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=3603

Jaeger doesn't look like a typical Dangerzone Dog.

Here is a great looking Dangerzone/Camelot



 

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Not trying to jump all over you personally (you know who), but here is no such thing as a chocolate or rednose bloodline.
 

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A little story about Dangerzone. Dangerzone APBT were big bully pitbulls. The man who started the Dangerzone line, rather, his wife did. He is now widowed, and he is also a doctor. When his wife died, he tried to keep her dream of Dangerzone APBT alive, but decided it was too much. He had wayyyyyyyyyyy too many dogs that were used for breeding. (Just guessing, but after speaking personally to him, close to 70 or so!)
Anyway, he started to sell them off and give them away. I know this because we had found a chocolate one named Torco, whom we were going to use for breeding one day in East Fla.

The Dangerzone line, Id safely say that only about 1/2 of them were ever even registered with any kennel club, partly because of laziness on owners behalf, partly because of the "mixing" that was going on.

The whole situation kinda reminds me of what Banterbull was doing, almost "creating a new breed" whether it be a better breed, or not, I dunno their situation 100%, but they were definatly going for "bigger"

As for the color, never heard of it and it is not a UKC recognized color.

This is all facts from the Dangerzone themselves. Kinda pity the people, but do not agree with them either. They have produced some awesome dogs, but more so, big freak monsters.
 

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My pups have Dangerzone in their line, and Camelot/Peterson. I beleive that is where my little chocolate pup came from!
 

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Haven't you seen the pedigrees of it's parents before you purchased him?
You should have..
 

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PitBullRoyalty said:
Haven't you seen the pedigrees of it's parents before you purchased him?
You should have..
I am not really worried about his pedigree. I am more just curious about it. We bought Jaeger as a pet and hunting partner for my husband. We never planned on breeding or showing him. I met both of his parents and the litter. I was more looking for the personality of the litter and the parents (both were very friendly, but the dam was a cuddlebum with everyone).
 

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PitBullRoyalty said:
Haven't you seen the pedigrees of it's parents before you purchased him?
You should have..
Pedigrees are just fonts on papers , PBR. If it was important I would have been flaunting my dogs pedigree whenever you guys tell me my dog is not American Pitbull (BAM!!)
 
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