[KBMastiffs]

Afternoon all.. I'm going to make an attempt to post Angus' picture. Here goes.

I was told that Angus was a Staffordshire and he was confiscated during a drug/dog fighting raid in Richmond. Angus is only 8 or 9 weeks old and the Shelter worker is very familar with the different breeds.

His breed doesn't really concern me, but I would like to get it correct when asked what he is. Having been told he was a Staffie, I found myself defending his honor over the weekend with my life at some snotty teenage girl who was just nasty and had turned up her nose at him regardless of what he was.

I've emailed the shelter worker in hopes that she could supply with me pedigree information or at the very least pictures of his parents. I'd like to know just how big he's gonna be. I need to plan for a much bigger dog than a Staffie. So, I've come here to see if I can get some help.

We live in Marshall, Virginia and I'd be happy to bring Angus out for anyone to check him out and play with him. I just want to know for sure what I actually have. Staffie, Pittie, does not matter either way, just need to know which character to expect.

Thanks..

 

[Bremner53]

Hello, you have one cute bully there!!!!

I cannot tell whether or not your pup is an APBT, or Amstaff, or a Staffie. Guessing since he was involved with Dog fighting that he is a American Pit Bull Terrier. If you just want to know for personality, all bully's are fairly similar. Fun, Loving, Smart, But also know that there is a huge potential for Dog Aggression, especially if he comes from fighting lines.

Just ask any time you have questions.

 

[Miakoda]

Without acquiring a dog from a respectable, knowledgable, & honest breeder who keeps accurate & honest records in all his dogs' pedigrees, then there is no way to tell what breed of dog you truly got.

The problem with the dog being a "pit bull" is that this is a generic term that applies to several different breeds of dogs, not one. American Pit Bull Terriers, American Staffordshire Terriers, Staffordshire Bull Terriers, Bull Terriers, & American Bulldogs are ALL "pit bulls" along with any mix of these & any dog that protrays similar physical characteristics.

As far a DNA goes, scientists have just completed mapping out the DNA of a Boxer, however there are still holes left. While they are also working on a small handful of other breeds (literally 5 or less...the poodle is one of them), they have yet to be able to successfully differentiate those select breeds based on their DNA. And do you know how many breeds are out there? Without having the DNA map already completed, then there is nothing to base your dog's DNA on! It's proving to be almost impossible & this point with breeds that are very dissimilar, one can't even imagine the problems there would be with all the "pit bull" breeds. Plus, thanks to back yard breeders, puppy peddlers, & unscrupulous breeders in general, there is soooo much outcrossing to the other breeds when breeding (i.e. the APBT & AmStaff ARE completely different breeds thanks to over 100yrs of selective breeding for entirely different characteristics, however bybs & the such could care less & often mix the 2 breeds together as well as breeding to AB's & even outcrossing to other breeds like mastiffs, EB's, OEB's, etc). The whole "take your dog to the vet & have him run a blood test" is a complete myth & is often used by people who want to try to justify the breeding of mixed breed dogs all in the name of making more money off of puppy sales.

Now of course there is DNA profiling but all that proves is that a said puppy comes from said parents. It does NOTHING to prove the dog's breed or bloodline unless the DNA profiling has been done on all the dogs in the pup's pedigree for at least 7 generations & even then you have to wonder about dogs with hung pedigrees as DNA profiling just proves parentage, not breed.

As far as what your dog is, NO ONE can look at him & identify him as one bulldog breed or another. Not your vet, not friends, & not even experts in each breed. As far as my byb rescued dogs, they are all mutts as their is nothing to prove to me otherwise despite how closely they resemble an APBT, AB, AST, SBT, BT, etc.

 

[Tanner]

Welcome and whatever he is, he is a cutie!

 

[Zippitydodaa]

I love those cute little puppy nails! They were so much easier to cut! He looks like a great pup!

 

[Josie's Proud Mom]

If that name doesn't match him Nothing will! He's a beauty and boy he's gonna be a box of muscles!!!! Look at those legs and chest! Very pretty boy! Welcome to the forum you will like it here, it's a very helpful place.