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Since there appears to be a vast difference of opinion between the working and non working crowd here how about if the non working crew stays off of the threads posted in this section? If you don't "work" your dog then you add very little in experience and knowledge to this section.

We all know that 99% of the fights are between these two groups and I have a feeling this is why this section was created.

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I think it would be kinda hard to keep "non workers" out of the area. But yeah, I agree with the people wanting to fight. But you have some people who think they know everything, not just the working crowd but everyone in general.
 

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I think this section of the forum should be for the working dog people to talk about their thing. The other people like me who have a bully not to comment in this section. We can read over the posts but NOT post in it. We really don't know what it is like in their world (working , showing etc.) Then we can all get along without sticking our non experience two cent in. JMO I do like the advise I get from the experience people. I may not like what they say but I do like that they let me know if and what I may be doing wrong. If I like it I take it if not I don't. PLEASE lets get over ourselves and get along.
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debs said:
I think this section of the forum should be for the working dog people to talk about their thing. The other people like me who have a bully not to comment in this section. We can read over the posts but NOT post in it. We really don't know what it is like in their world (working , showing etc.) Then we can all get along without sticking our non experience two cent in. JMO I do like the advise I get from the experience people. I may not like what they say but I do like that they let me know if and what I may be doing wrong. If I like it I take it if not I don't. PLEASE lets get over ourselves and get along.
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Yeah, I agree with Debs, I like to get help when I need it and I like to learn. I know nothing of training a working dog and therefore would not feel comfortable giving any advice in that area however, I might learn something that could be useful with my dogs. And personally, I never thought that it was the two different types of dogs that keep people agitated, I thought it was a difference in people's personalities.
 

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No offense, and I'll try not to sugarcoat. :wink: Has there really been a problem with "non" working dog members posting in this section? I've seen a few threads to complain (surprise surprise!), a question about hunting rabbits, which isn't really a "working" question....and a question about Staffies in the working field. Nothing too technical that a member of average intelligence who's been around a while couldn't answer. I think we can all use common sense -- when someone posts a question that we cannot answer, we won't answer. No need to segregate or dictate who can post what where. That's just going to extremes. If the working dog people don't want to hear a word from us, they can go to another forum, you know? This IS a pet forum, root just "allowed" a new section. This isn't really the time to be making demands, it's a time to say THANK YOU. Just my 2 cents. We have ALL put up with a lot of differences in opinion for a long time, I think they can put up with a few pet owners chiming in every now & then if it makes them happy. No one has really offered any unsound advice. I've seen a few questions, and maybe some reasonable suggestions. Nothing to get excited over.

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Why all the desire for segregation on this message board ? Diversity stimulates great discussion!! How can we learn if we are all the same? Working people add valuable insight to the understanding of bull breeds. Please don't create a hostile environment for the working people.We need their input. I have had "pet " ABs for nine years and find their input invaluable. I don't always agree with it,but at least I am aware.I think that is key. We are all obsessed with our dogs and want the best for them.That is the one thing that we all have in common. That should be enough.
 

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hunting isnt a "working" job for dogs?
That's not what I meant, I'm sorry. I meant people were answering the question "would he eat it" or "is it ok to eat it" ... something along those lines. I wouldn't call that a "working" question, and we are all fully capable of answering that without sounding like complete morons. Give us some credit -- we all may not "work" our dogs, but we're not so stupid that we can't figure out if a dog will eat a rabbit that it has caught. Know what I mean?
 

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Ive kind of figured out nobody can answer that question. Some dogs will eat every last inch of it. Other dogs will just play with it. other dogs wont even chase the rabbit. Yeah I see what your saying i was just givin you a hard time :wink:
 

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Ive kind of figured out nobody can answer that question. Some dogs will eat every last inch of it. Other dogs will just play with it. other dogs wont even chase the rabbit. Yeah I see what your saying i was just givin you a hard time :wink:
LOL, then you'll fit right in here! :lol: Thanks for uderstanding what I meant. I didn't mean to insult your question. I think every question is important!

James, just to further what I've been trying to say, (only in a "nicer" way) I do acknowledge and appreciate your point. I do think that everyone will naturally only contribute what they think is helpful. The trouble starts when someone else has a different definition of what is "helpful." I really do hope to see harmony on this forum again. Last time it took a tragedy to get everyone to see eye to eye, and remember why we're here. I hope it doesn't come down to that. I truly do think everyone here has something important to say, and it would be so wonderful if we could all respect each other, as if we were sitting in the same room. It's so much easier to bash and lash out when you're only staring at a keyboard, and not reading someone's expression. I'm very guilty of that just as much as the next person. I am TRYING my hardest to not take things so seriously and just take what's valuable, and disregard the rest. TRYING to bite my tongue and play nice. (I was a bad girl last night, :oops: LOL) I hope we can all learn something from each other. Whether it's how to train a dog, or how to have patience.

(Does anyone else feel like joining hands and singing We Are The World?) OK, maybe it's just me. :wink: :tongue3:

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Public Segregation

So, on a public board, you want working people only to post on the working forum(s) and non-working people to only post on the non-working forums? Are you serious? Can't we all be adults here? Who decides what exactly work is? Who decides if you're a working or non-working dog person? This just keeps getting more and more ridiculous. It all seems silly to me. We're obviously not all going to always get along. But, if we can all be adults about it, me included, we shouldn't have the problems we are having here. Instead of asking certain people to post and not post certain areas, lets just ask everyong to be mature. How about that?
 

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Yeah, I think since this is a public forum all members should be able to post where they like. I don't work my dog for protection sports, only in the agility sport, so I wouldn't necessarily be able to give advice on protection (which I don't think the members who do train in protection need :) ) but sometimes I'd like training tips for agility :) And a lot of members who don't currently "work" their dogs, like to learn about this stuff, too.

I don't think the getting along issue has anything to do with the fact that some members work their dogs and some don't. I think it has to do with a difference of opinion on certain subjects as well as different personalties. I don't know about anyone else, but I can say for myself I like to hear other people's opinions. I don't get angry when people disagree with me, but some members take things personally. Which in some cases, I can understand. I think there needs to be a lot less personal attacks on people. Challenge someones opinion rather than attacking them personally. We aren't children.
 

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LuvaBULL said:
(Does anyone else feel like joining hands and singing We Are The World?) OK, maybe it's just me. :wink: :tongue3:

Cheers~ :eek:ccasion5:
I can't mod in this section!!!! and I don't want to join in, working dog ppl want to see my dogs destroyed!

But, yeah I reckon we should all be able to post in whatever section...I may want to work one of my pets :p heh! Roxy & Marlee might become good sheep herders :lol: As long as the sheep don't make any sudden movements, :shock: otherwise Rox will peg it and Marlee will piss herself :lol:



J/k................................................ they are not that bad !
 

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LuvaBULL said:
(Does anyone else feel like joining hands and singing We Are The World?) OK, maybe it's just me. :wink: :tongue3:

Cheers~ :eek:ccasion5:
I can't mod in this section!!!! and I don't want to join in, working dog ppl want to see my dogs destroyed!

But, yeah I reckon we should all be able to post in whatever section...I may want to work one of my pets :p heh! Roxy & Marlee might become a good sheep herders :lol: As long as the sheep don't make any sudden movements, :shock: otherwise Rox will peg it and Marlee will piss herself :lol:



J/k................................................ they are not that bad !

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I don't work dogs allthough I'm seriously looking into it. I would never come into this forum claiming to know anything but rather to learn from the people here that do know something. This will be the last time i post here until i can honestly and objectively contribute to what this forum is designed for but i will continue to read the threads here in hopes of being a better dog owner.
 

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attitude said:
fyi Drakoshuman, this thread is a few years old :lol:
phew...good.
I was reading this thread in recent topics and thinking OMG wtf has happened since this morning?!?! :lol:
 
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