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Thing is ( I think) and I have to agree at this point, he doesn't want to answer to you folks that actually do rescue and have for years and years in and out of the ghetto.
I know I wouldn't want to.
Maybe he thinks he can do it this way and save the rescues money for another venture? Who knows, so he said his electric bill went up, big fat deal, why not crucify him for it?
Maybe he has his own blankets and the rescue can save their money for another situation.

Get real.

Oh and to the OP please make sure the pups are spayed/neutered before being handed over. :wink:
 
msvette2u said:
I wouldn't say "more noble" but at least people can see you care about the dogs and not just about your wallet.
He claims he cares but if he cared, he'd have taken people up on their offers to help (especially that shelter!) he'd alter the puppies before they leave...not doing so and claiming he's got to "shell out" all this money, and also try to get a pay check to pay for his electric bills says he's doing it for money, NOT the dogs.
That's all people are upset about.
Sending them out on a contract is a huge fail on his part.
And for those of us in rescue we ALL know it's 24/7...no news there.
And we all know it costs more money than any of us will ever really recoup.
If he didn't care about the dogs....I am CERTAIN he would come up with other ways to fatten his wallet. If he didn't care about the dogs, he would have left that place saying, what a bunch of losers, and left it at that. Even if he asks $250/pup he certainly isn't sitting on a goldmine. Jeez. With the food, time, pee pads, vet bill already acquired, etc etc, I will be surprised if he breaks even to be honest. And if he was $500 ahead in the end....who cares? Good for him. He did a good thing and is compensated a little for his efforts. I don't see why some would compare this guy to rescue organizations anyway. He has a right to refuse a shelters help. The way I read it, he said his electricity bill will be higher now and he threw that in as an expense while he was madly scrambling around attempting to justify himself to some people on here. I mean, come on. WHO takes in a bunch of pups and an emaciated mom because they are SOLELY trying to make money?? We all know that any money he will make will be minimal, right? I'm sure he knows that and isn't planning on quitting his day job.

So he made the news. You all sound JEALOUS. " Look we do this and that and this and that and WE are not on the news!" It is sad. This guy isn't a rescue organization. He is some dude that saw dogs in a crappy situation and changed that. I personally see nothing wrong with him asking $500/puppy , if thats what he wants to do. He NEEDS to fix those pups first though. I agree with you on that. And yes, he should screen potential owners to make sure they aren't complete losers, but that isn't too hard to do on one's own.

Its just too bad he now feels bad about the whole situation.
 
jinxxycat said:
Moe6876 said:
He did do good by saving the dogs
And I think THIS is the main point :wink:
Ya for sure. Fix the pups before they leave and he did a great job. I say that he up the price so he can get all the vet care, including spay/neuter taken care of. So, dude, if you are reading this, ask whatever price it takes to enable you to get the pups and mom fixed.
 
Everybody knows he did save these dogs from hell and if i m not mistaken he rescued 3 dogs for himself..

I m not bashing here just curious..why do rescues say there full of bullies and they have to put some to sleep and want these...if you take these puppies and mommy aren t there going to be other PTS ...i don t know much about rescues so i m just asking.

I m talking for myself..i understand the rescue gang want s to help and thats wonderful but me rescuing them i would want to do it myself...maybe it will be a hard lesson to learn which i wouldn t do again but at least i would want to do it myself to learn...

Maybe he got just so excited for the good deed he couldn t shut up .. i know if i did that i would be jumping high with excitement..yapping to everybody not to get praise but just because i m dam happy for the jester i did..

You rescue people are used to these situations us people who nerver worked in a rescue are not...i hope you understand what i mean...

i love the people who work in rescues... and people who foster dogs.. i m just saying..
 
Dodo & Bull said:
Everybody knows he did save these dogs from hell and if i m not mistaken he rescued 3 dogs for himself..

I m not bashing here just curious..why do rescues say there full of bullies and they have to put some to sleep and want these...if you take these puppies and mommy aren t there going to be other PTS ...i don t know much about rescues so i m just asking.

I m talking for myself..i understand the rescue gang want s to help and thats wonderful but me rescuing them i would want to do it myself...maybe it will be a hard lesson to learn which i wouldn t do again but at least i would want to do it myself to learn...

Maybe he got just so excited for the good deed he couldn t shut up .. i know if i did that i would be jumping high with excitement..yapping to everybody not to get praise but just because i m dam happy for the jester i did..

You rescue people are used to these situations us people who nerver worked in a rescue are not...i hope you understand what i mean...

i love the people who work in rescues... and people who foster dogs.. i m just saying..
Ya, +100 :D
 
The rescue offered help...There are volunteers who strictly just take puppies, there are volunteers who strictly just take senior dogs etc...PAWS is full no doubt, but they where thinking of Brian, trying to help take financial strain off of him, after shelling out 1,500 for them...In rescue (especially bully breeds) we are fanatical about altering the animals, me personally will not let a dog go into fostercare until it is altered, just for the "what if's"...

As far as me being in the red (from an earlier response) I get out of it often, but all rescues find themselves in the red more often then not..And if we simply just stopped doing rescue because of being in the red, more dogs would be put to death.

From what I gathered this couple where going to start a gym, and took the money they where saving for the gym to save these dogs, which is a great thing...

What angers a lot of people is the responses he gave, by refusing help and stating that he was going to have adopters alter the dogs...

Now someone mentioned previously about the adopters paying up front taking that money and altering the puppy (I actually said this to their friend yesterday, if it was relayed to them I don't know) but that is a fabulous idea...but then the problem comes in he will not recoup his money (maybe alittle).
 
I have been pretty busy with work so I haven't been on here much. Despite everything I'm especially happy that the mother got out of this situation and hope the pups find great homes.
 
Moe6876 said:
The rescue offered help...There are volunteers who strictly just take puppies, there are volunteers who strictly just take senior dogs etc...PAWS is full no doubt, but they where thinking of Brian, trying to help take financial strain off of him, after shelling out 1,500 for them...In rescue (especially bully breeds) we are fanatical about altering the animals, me personally will not let a dog go into fostercare until it is altered, just for the "what if's"...

As far as me being in the red (from an earlier response) I get out of it often, but all rescues find themselves in the red more often then not..And if we simply just stopped doing rescue because of being in the red, more dogs would be put to death.

From what I gathered this couple where going to start a gym, and took the money they where saving for the gym to save these dogs, which is a great thing...

What angers a lot of people is the responses he gave, by refusing help and stating that he was going to have adopters alter the dogs...

Now someone mentioned previously about the adopters paying up front taking that money and altering the puppy (I actually said this to their friend yesterday, if it was relayed to them I don't know) but that is a fabulous idea...but then the problem comes in he will not recoup his money (maybe alittle).
Last night i went on PBF and i saw your avatar...your dog is gorgeous..

Thanks for your answer..

one thing everybody agrees on is for him to get them all spayed and neutered before selling them..
 
Moe6876 said:
The rescue offered help...There are volunteers who strictly just take puppies, there are volunteers who strictly just take senior dogs etc...PAWS is full no doubt, but they where thinking of Brian, trying to help take financial strain off of him, after shelling out 1,500 for them...In rescue (especially bully breeds) we are fanatical about altering the animals, me personally will not let a dog go into fostercare until it is altered, just for the "what if's"...

As far as me being in the red (from an earlier response) I get out of it often, but all rescues find themselves in the red more often then not..And if we simply just stopped doing rescue because of being in the red, more dogs would be put to death.

From what I gathered this couple where going to start a gym, and took the money they where saving for the gym to save these dogs, which is a great thing...

What angers a lot of people is the responses he gave, by refusing help and stating that he was going to have adopters alter the dogs...

Now someone mentioned previously about the adopters paying up front taking that money and altering the puppy (I actually said this to their friend yesterday, if it was relayed to them I don't know) but that is a fabulous idea...but then the problem comes in he will not recoup his money (maybe alittle).
Exactly...rehoming dogs for a fee is acceptable IF it's been vetted. To ask $250 and then require the adopter to alter later, that's a disaster waiting to happen.
The one who started with the money issue was the OP...had he come on and just said "Hey I took these dogs", we'd be all like yay, etc.
But everyone knows when you pay a BYB, they just are encouraged to do it again, hell, she's got incentive to buy 2-3 bitches now and have litters all over!
Then for him to ignore and refuse offers to help (since he seems to be a 'newbie' at rehoming pit bulls) and get angry when we said "Spay and neuter, even at 8 weeks it's best", people began to question his motives, and rightly so.
When you do not fully vet a dog, or don't do it at all, it's called selling, not rehoming.
And that breed, above all, needs to go out of rescues altered.
 
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