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Hi everyone

I'm a newbie here and started off posting and reading like mad when I first joined and work got super busy keeping me away.
Anyway, I'm loved by a 15 week old English Bull, RJ. We have recently had an accident and I need some advice.

Last week while I was on my way home from a business meeting in ST Pete I received a frantic call from my husband the RJ had tumbled off the back porch (only about 10 inches down) and was limping and yelping. I instructed him to take him to the ER Vet (HAS to happen at night when my vet is closed) and I met him there when a babysitter arrived. Several hours later we came home with Xrays which we took to our own vet the next AM.

RJ broke his elbow to a very severe degree, almost looking severed but not a compound fracture, he broke his shoulder as well and there is a break in his collarbone with shards of bone fragment lodged beneath the front portion.

Well, a few thousand $$ :cry: and the first of at least 3 surgeries and RJ is on the mend with his leg in a sling and twenty seven staples. He did well through the surgery and we'll do whatever we need to do for him, but the vet did say that arthriitis was ineveitable and would probably begin at a fairly early age so I want to see if anyone has any advice on what we can do for preventatives early on. He's only 15 weeks old, and I want to give him the best chance at having a really productive life.
I hate to put a dollar amount on a dog, as he is part of the family, but my new husband and I had to cancel our honeymoon trip that we had booked in late May to pay for this surgery and he is not really very happy about it to begin with. If we end up not having many years with RJ I am concerned that he is going to feel resentful at the money we have now invested, and possible at me...and he would not be out of line. We are now over 5,000.00 into this pup inlcuding what we paid for him, and there are more vet bills to come. I really want him to0 be with us for a long time and not have to put im down at a young age due to arthritis.

Something else I found out...he has a heart murmur :( . I was thrilled (NOT)to find that out and when I called the breeder she basically said that was beyond her control...and I couldn't very return him after we were attached to him, not to mention the fact that he now has an upper quadrant full of screws and pins, our bionic doggie. SHe wouldn't have taken him back anyhow.

ANy suggestions?? Special food or supplements? What to do or not to do for excercising that limbs??
Any advice would help.....

Thanks in advance

Kimberly ..RJ's Mom
 

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her story about her broken arm about made me cry.

did your doctor say he suspects autritis because of the breed or because of the surgeries?

I have a 5 year old bulldog... he's had his share of tumbles but the worst have only been a few spranes and no surgery was necessary. He had to limp for a few days but by the end of the week he's usually fine again.

Anyways, at 5 years old he still gets around very well. Of course, he is slow usually but at times he has huge bursts of speed. My point is, he doesn't have authritis. He is slow at sitting down but I think thats pretty normal for an English Bulldog.

If its authritis from the surgery then the only thing may be some pain reliever when you see she is hurting real bad and after she's a little older. A little ibprofin (sp?) usually does the trick... just don't give her too much. It should reduce muscle or tissue swelling which can contribute to authritis.

Best thing though to do though is ask a vet. If you feel your vet isn't being helpful with info then call a vet who speciallizes in English bulldogs (ask people from your EB clubs for vet recomendations).

But if you decide your aunable to keep her for whatever reason... contact your local English Bulldog club leaders (check the internet for contact numbers in your area). They will gladly find a wonderful friendly home that can take care of her and pamper her special needs. THen you won't have to worry about who you leave her with since you will know she's in good hands.
 

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No no no ibuprofen! It will destroy either her liver or kidneys (I forget which). There are other things that are safe. Baby aspirin or low-dose aspirin is safe for short periods of time, and I believe Tylenol is okay, but I could be wrong about that. And there is one specifically for dogs called Rymadyl. Have you consulted an orthopedist? I'm sure there are some supplements you could start now to try and prevent future problems, like glucosamine. I'm sure other folks here might have some advice on that.

Poor RJ! I'm so sorry that happened to her! :cry:
 

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I use Glycoflex soft chews for my older dogs. The Glycoflex 3 has Glucosamine, Chondroitin for joints as well as MSM which supports the liver. MSM is great if your dog will need to be on NSAIDS (non-steriodal anti-infammitant drugs ie: Rimadyl, Deramaxx) long term. My Westie has such severe food allergies he cant even have Glycoflex so he takes Duralactin, which is a milk-protien based arthritis support that is SAFE to use along with NSAIDS.
 

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Hi all
Thanks for the replies.
Actually the Vet that did RJ's surgery, which will be the first of a few he has told me, is an Orthopedic specialist, hence the high price tag I guess.
What he said was that early onset of arthritis was ineveitable becasue of the surgeries and the damage to the areas around the bone.

He has my boy on Tramadol actually for pain which I was happy about becasue I have had two dogs in the past that had bad reactions to Rimadyl.

My priority here is preventative. he's going to suffer some trauma all around from such invasive reconstructive surgeries.

I will certainly keep him btw, he's family and honestly with this much invested in him there's now way he's leaving me..lol...he's waering my savings in the form of pins and screws.

He is so active and even with one leg taped up against his side he wants to run around and of course he keeps tipping over..he's not so graceful.

I just want togive him every possible chance to have as much normallity in his life as possibe. With teh heart murmer the surgeries are riskier anyhow so avoiding more is a better option.

I found something called Sea Jerky that is for bone and joint health and is all natural so if anyone has used that let me know. The vet said Glycoflex was for older dogs but at his rate his body is going to be similar to an older dogs body soon anyway it would seem.

Thanks for the input

K
 

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RJ'sMom said:
The vet said Glycoflex was for older dogs but at his rate his body is going to be similar to an older dogs body soon anyway it would seem.

Thanks for the input

K
Not really true. A lot of veterinarians are now starting to take preventative measures for arthritis rather than waiting until the dog has pain to treat the arthritis. In fact, at the clinic I work at we commomly start giant breed pups and pups intended for hunting, agility, herding, etc on Glycoflex I so we can help keep the dogs running gear in good shape. Glycoflex II is commomly used for adult working dogs and senior dogs that dont have major joint issues. Glycoflex III is for geriatric dogs, retired working dogs, dogs with arthritis and dogs that have had certain orthopedic surgeries like ACL, TPLO, etc.
 

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Glycoflex simply helps keep joints lubricated by helping increase the body's production of Synovial fluid. I have used it on my horse for years and I notice an great difference in his movements. It is wonderful for arthritis!

Also, Ibuprofin (Motrin, Aleve, Advil) is an anti-inflammatory and is metabolized in the kidneys - too much can cause kidney damage. I was once told never give pets Aspirin but acetaminophen (Tylenol) is okay.
 
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