[Vertes3]

Hi all,

I'm new to the board and had some questions for you.

Me and my hubby know we want an English bulldog, but after doing some research I think that an OEB would be a better choice for us personally. The thing is that my hubby is still set on an English bulldog. He feels that an OEB is pretty much a mutt, and he can't understand why a breeder would charge as much for an OEB as an English bulldog. I personally think that most OEBs look pretty much the same as an English bulldog, but he thinks that they are less cute for some reason, and he thinks that they would have a a worse temperment. I think that the bottom line is that he feels like we would be getting ripped off if we got an OEB from a reputable breeder.

I'm hesitant to get an English bulldog because of their numerous health problems, and I just don't think that it would be wise to get a dog who couldn't do a lot of the activities that we enjoy doing (like walks, etc.). I want to be able to give our dog a LOT of attention and love, but I don't want a dog that is more high maitenance than our child is. I love a lot of the traits of the English bulldog, and I really think that an OEB would be a really good middle ground.

I don't quite understand though why an OEB is $2000+ ?? I can see why an English bulldog would be that much because of the vet bills, and all. But why would a breeder who has been breeding OEBs for 20 years still be charging that much when their dogs are free breeders and whelpers? They supposedly only breed their OEBs with other OEBs, so why do they need to charge so much? Is it just because OEBs are rare and they can get away with charging that much? From what is written about them they are supposed to be rid of the breeding problems associated with English bulldogs, and are just bred and whelped like any ordinary dog, so why aren't they priced the same as what other dogs would be? OEBs aren't AKC registered so they can't truely be champion blood line like some other breeds can, so why are they more expensive than dogs who actually do come from champion bloodlines?? I'm just a bit confused about this.

OEBs really do sound like outstanding dogs from what I've read though, but I'm just curious if any of you have any more info on them??

Thanks a bunch!!!

 

[Bogart]

$2000 for an OEB?! Wow. That is a lot.

I have an OEB name Bogart. He is the world's greatest dog-ok maybe I'm a little biased. :wink: Personally, I do think of him as my bully mutt. From the research I did, I found that there is a great deal of variety in the OEB's that are produced. I am not an expert on breeding or even what the OEB standard is, but I think an OEB breeder charging $2000 is robbing you.

English Bulldogs are a great breed. If you do get one just be sure that you get one from a reputable breeder. I've seen some horrible looking EB's because of poor breeding. I prefer ones with straighter legs. I think it's terrible when their legs are extremely exaggerated (extremely wideset)-it's just not healthy.

Here are some photos of Bogart, an OEB. He is very athletic!! The great thing about him is that he will be lazy around the house, but when it's time to get some exercise, he loves it. He could even play fetch all day if I was up to it.

http://www.bulldogbreeds.com/discuss/viewtopic.php?t=7640
http://www.bulldogbreeds.com/discuss/viewtopic.php?t=7550

 

[Bustersmommy]

EB are not great to have unless you don't mind spending a fortune on them at the vets office, all kinds of health problems with these dogs also you say you guys like to take walks and such well an EB is not for you.They can not handle the heat or the cold, in fact they prefer to do very little...........lol

OEB are a great dog and sounds like one that would fit your lifestyle well. You will find many that offer there pups at different prices.But would you rather pay very little and have an unhealthy dog or pay a lot and get a dog with no or very little health problems? Myself I would pay more and get a healthy pup.Some charge more because they do health testing on there dogs which is what you want.I myself have an American bull dog so I am unable to answer many questions on the OEB but I do know they are great dogs to have.I know there are a few on here that have OEB and would be able to answer all your questions better then I.Good luck on your search and don't go with with very first breeder, check out as many as you can, ask LOTS of questions and then go off of the info you receive.Ask if they do health test and if so what kind they do, also ask if the parents are on site, ask if they have any referrals so you can call previous buyers to ask if they have had any problems with there pups and what not.Just a few suggestions for you :wink: Good luck

 

[Carrie]

You can find quality EB breeders..you just have to look hard for them. I looked for a couple of years before I found the right breeder, and couldn't be happier with my boy. He's healthy, extremely active, just a character...but definitely not the norm for the breed. Most EB's are poorly structured, have terrible hips, breathing issues, skin issues you name it..it pays to do your research..and even then, it's a crapshoot.

OEB's can be wonderful dogs..I have two. The thing to realize is that the breed is in it's infancy..many breeders are still doing first generation crosses, there are 11 or more registries for the breed depending on the line, there are many different types and lines within the breed..some are heavily bred English Bulldog, others are Mastiff based (Neopolitan, Dogue De Bordeaux, etc.) some are heavy American Bulldog, APBT Boston Terrier, French Bulldog, etc... you really have to look around and research to find a type you like and a good breeder with that type. I have known people who have bought an OEB thinking it would be about a 60-70 pound dog only to have it reach 120 because of the mastiff influence..make sure you find a quality breeder who can answer all your questions about what breeds are behind thier lines, what type of guarantee they offer, buyer references, etc.

If you want a jooging/hiking partner, go with an OEB..even if you do manage to get an EB that is active, it still will not have the endurance and stamina for a run or hike..especially in any weather over 70 degrees. OEB's (from the right breeder) can be very active and athletic..they can handle a plethora of outdoor activities and tend to be much healthier than the average EB.

As far as prices, not all OEB's are pricey. Most reputable OEB breeders sell pet pups at a reduced rate on either limited registration or no registration on a spay/nueter agreement...I have seen OEB's under those contracts go for about $500.00. Breed/show quality pups will be more expensive..between $1000-2000, although most breeders I know average $1000-1500. There are CH OEB's..they are shown with the IOEBA, CKC, WBA, etc.... they are not recognized by AKC (which is generally a good thing) and have thier own breed registries they show under. You can't forget also that some folks work thier OEB's as well..I know some breeders who do weightpull and protection work, as well as therapy and search and rescue with thier dogges.

I highly recommend Blue River Bulldogs (they have AB's and OEB's just as I do) they work, train, show and test thier dogs and really have some of the best OEB's out there. If you would like someother breeder recommendations or have questions, etc. feel free to contact me.I am more than happy to help.

 

[Vertes3]

Thanks for the input!!!

Carrie, I'm going to email you tomorrow.....does your email addy have an underscore in it ( _ )?? I have a couple breeders I was thinking about contacting, and I was going to show you the sites to see what you think. I really like EBs, but I just think an OEB is better suited for us, and I have been doing a lot of research on them, but it seems the more research I do the more confusing it gets....kwim? I have always had rotti's, but never a bulldog, so I don't even really know what to look for.
Thanks again guys for helping me with this one!!!

 

[Carrie]

Carrie, I'm going to email you tomorrow.....does your email addy have an underscore in it ( _ )??

It sure does. Feel free to email anytime..i'm more than happy to help!

 

[OrsonDogge]

Yes, definatly get an OEB if you want a dog that will live longer than 6 years!!!

I agree, english bulls are the cutest...but do lots of research on any breeder you
buy from, EB or OEB, especially find out about the temperment of parents and the health
of parents (hips and other joint problems).

I unfortunatly did little research on my OEB and found he is first generation OEB mutt!!
But I love him and wouldn't trade him in!!! So many OEB's are from different breeding stock,
Orson's mom is pure OEB while his dad is 75% english bulldog and %25 American pitbull.

A great suggestion is to try a rescue group or just the pound, they have many english bulldog mixes.
There you can get an almost OEB...the look without the price and you're saving a life!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Bogart]

Hehehehehe! That is the funniest expression!!

 

[Vertes3]

Carrie, I wrote you an email, and hopefully it was the right addy!!

 

[msvette2u]

www.petfinder.com <type in "bulldog" and see what you get back. You might be surprised!!