[bigut64]

I know i am stupid but i am already looking at what my "next" dog is gonna be. I like the English Bulldogs because they are so lazy, or most are, however i dont want a dog that has sooo many health problems because i cant afford the bills. But when i found Olde English Bulldogges i thought i found the perfect match.

Does anyone know much about Olde English Bulldogges from experience, ive read all the breed standards and everything already.

 

[deuce's mommy]

Deuce is an OEB, but he is only 4 months so I don't have much experience yet. Here are some pics.
10 wk little chubs

4 months

 

[maryserratos]

I think you will find the OEB to be a great alternative to the EB! I have two and I love them! I have had EB's before and I tell you now that I have had the OEB's I would never own another EB! Feel free to contact me if you want a little more infor before you decide.

 

[bigut64]

eh

its gonna be a while before i can get another dog. Baxter is about 6 months old now and takes up all my time. Also since i am still in college i think getting another dog would be a bad idea. However if i was out of college i would definately get one.

Baxter is a male APBT, if i do end up getting a female OEB puppy would they fight. I have been socializing baxter like crazy and i am going to have him nuetered to attempt to make him more dog friendly. I dunno any comments on if that is a bad idea?

 

[deuce's mommy]

Based on what I learned here, there is always a chance they won't get along. However, it is better to get opposite sexes and this will make it less likely that they will fight. Just what I've heard.

 

[Lisa]

Socializing your dog is no guarantee that they will not fight with other dogs. Baxter is an APBT they were bred to fight other dogs!! Also, nuetering probably won't change that either but the vets do like to tell people that.

The important thing is you be a responsible owner and keep your dog out of trouble. You don't have to have it socializing with a bunch of dogs to do that. In fact, many times thats how dogs get into trouble. I do take my dogs out around other dogs, but not let them play or go nose to nose with other dogs. I prefer to keep them foucussed on me and teach them to ignore other dogs. They need to know how to act while in the presence of other dogs but I do not demand they get along with them at all. That is not important to me. We are talking about bullies here. Bullies (APBT,AST, AB's etc) are known to be dominant and often dog aggressive. I prefer to NOT put them in the postition where they can get into trouble.

If you add a female, they may or may not get along but the important thing is before you get another dog is that YOU must accept that you may have to crate and rotate and keep them separated if they don't get along. If you can't accept that then getting another dog probably isn't in your best interest because there are never any guarantees when it comes to dogs.

 

[bigut64]

well

I have read all of that in every APBT info website, however i have seen a lot of people say their bully gets along great with other dogs. Also the bullies were bread for baiting, and also fighting gladiators and such and they dont attack humans now so i didnt know if it was a given. I was mainly looking for person experience of people having multiple bulldogs, especially mixing up OEB's.

Also i dont have your mentality, i let baxter play with any dog that comes up to him wanting to play. Now as soon as a dog acts aggressive, i pull baxter away and also tell the other dogs owner to do the same. I think if i let him know the diff between aggression and play its a good thing. Yes genetics are there, however he has his own brain.

 

[ScottB]

Sarge is an OEB. There is information here on this site about the breed. You can also check out http://ioeba.net for further information. Like any of the 'rare breed' bulldogs you will find a wide variance in price and appearance depending on the breeder. There seems to me to be a split occuring across a couple of different bloodlines. One is larger, more mastiff looking and one is smaller and appears to have more boxer to me. I am not a breeder - just a fan and those are my opinions. If you research the origins of the breed in the early 70s and ongoing foundation breeding by some breeders you will see why I am able to draw those conclusions.

Sarge is out of Mybullz and Zbullz stock and should be large, well-wrinkled and athletic with no breathing problems.

 

[Lisa]

Re: well

I have read all of that in every APBT info website, however i have seen a lot of people say their bully gets along great with other dogs. Also the bullies were bread for baiting, and also fighting gladiators and such and they dont attack humans now so i didnt know if it was a given. I was mainly looking for person experience of people having multiple bulldogs, especially mixing up OEB's.

Also i dont have your mentality, i let baxter play with any dog that comes up to him wanting to play. Now as soon as a dog acts aggressive, i pull baxter away and also tell the other dogs owner to do the same. I think if i let him know the diff between aggression and play its a good thing. Yes genetics are there, however he has his own brain.

Too each their own but I am not a risk taker. Dogs don't need to play with other dogs to be happy. It' the PEOPLE who seem to think that is important, not the dogs.

Good luck with Baxter.

 

[Lisa]

and also fighting gladiators and such and they dont attack humans now so i didnt know if it was a given.

I think you are confused. Are you saying that the APBT was bred to attack people??

 

[bigut64]

I think you are confused. Are you saying that the APBT was bred to attack people??

nope, the origional bulldog was bred for baiting which included but did not limit to people

 

[peeblerelf]

Re: well

I have read all of that in every APBT info website, however i have seen a lot of people say their bully gets along great with other dogs. Also the bullies were bread for baiting, and also fighting gladiators and such and they dont attack humans now so i didnt know if it was a given. I was mainly looking for person experience of people having multiple bulldogs, especially mixing up OEB's.

Also i dont have your mentality, i let baxter play with any dog that comes up to him wanting to play. Now as soon as a dog acts aggressive, i pull baxter away and also tell the other dogs owner to do the same. I think if i let him know the diff between aggression and play its a good thing. Yes genetics are there, however he has his own brain.

I have never heard of APBTs bred for attacking people. They are notoriously known (amongst the dog world anyway) for being bred for exactly the opposite. ANY APBT that would attack a human (farmer, or in the dog fighting ring) was shot on the spot. Human aggression was NEVER tolerated amongst this breed.

I understand you think your dog has his "own brain" as you put it, but unfortunately dogs don't have reasoning power like we do. I personally don't see anything wrong with letting your dog play with other dogs but he won't be able to decipher between aggression and play if he gets attacked one too many times. Kinda like "once bitten, twice shy". but again every dog is different.

 

[Lisa]

I have never heard of APBTs bred for attacking people. They are notoriously known (amongst the dog world anyway) for being bred for exactly the opposite. ANY APBT that would attack a human (farmer, or in the dog fighting ring) was shot on the spot. Human aggression was NEVER tolerated amongst this breed.

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Excellent post Stephanie. As much as people diss on those old time dog fighters, one thing is they NEVER tolerated human aggression, even in the slightest form. That is something I greatly respect them for.

 

[bigut64]

Re: well

I have read all of that in every APBT info website, however i have seen a lot of people say their bully gets along great with other dogs. Also the bullies were bread for baiting, and also fighting gladiators and such and they dont attack humans now so i didnt know if it was a given. I was mainly looking for person experience of people having multiple bulldogs, especially mixing up OEB's.

Also i dont have your mentality, i let baxter play with any dog that comes up to him wanting to play. Now as soon as a dog acts aggressive, i pull baxter away and also tell the other dogs owner to do the same. I think if i let him know the diff between aggression and play its a good thing. Yes genetics are there, however he has his own brain.

I have never heard of APBTs bred for attacking people. They are notoriously known (amongst the dog world anyway) for being bred for exactly the opposite. ANY APBT that would attack a human (farmer, or in the dog fighting ring) was shot on the spot. Human aggression was NEVER tolerated amongst this breed.

I understand you think your dog has his "own brain" as you put it, but unfortunately dogs don't have reasoning power like we do. I personally don't see anything wrong with letting your dog play with other dogs but he won't be able to decipher between aggression and play if he gets attacked one too many times. Kinda like "once bitten, twice shy". but again every dog is different.

you missunderstood what i said

I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT APBTs I AM TALKING ABOUT THE ORIGIONAL BULLDOGS WHEN I SAY HUMAN AGGRESSION, MEANING THE FIRST DOGS MIXED WITH MASTIF AND TERRIER.

you are talking about the specific dogs bred for only pit fighing.

 

[Lisa]

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[peeblerelf]

I have never heard of APBTs bred for attacking people. They are notoriously known (amongst the dog world anyway) for being bred for exactly the opposite. ANY APBT that would attack a human (farmer, or in the dog fighting ring) was shot on the spot. Human aggression was NEVER tolerated amongst this breed.

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Excellent post Stephanie. As much as people diss on those old time dog fighters, one thing is they NEVER tolerated human aggression, even in the slightest form. That is something I greatly respect them for.

Thanks Lisa. I feel the same. Gets me everytime when people always say they are vicious. They don't seem to get that they aren't supposed to be, or they don't care...

 

[jleonar]

I have never heard of APBTs bred for attacking people. They are notoriously known (amongst the dog world anyway) for being bred for exactly the opposite. ANY APBT that would attack a human (farmer, or in the dog fighting ring) was shot on the spot. Human aggression was NEVER tolerated amongst this breed.

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Excellent post Stephanie. As much as people diss on those old time dog fighters, one thing is they NEVER tolerated human aggression, even in the slightest form. That is something I greatly respect them for.

Not to support dog fighting because I think it is inhumane and wrong BUT old time dog fighters never fought their dogs to the death on purpose. The dogs would fight and handlers would stop the fight because serious damage was done. Both handlers would also stand in the ring during the fight also.

 

[bigut64]

okay

anyone with experience of owning apbt's and adding other bulldogs to the family?

 

[peeblerelf]

I have never heard of APBTs bred for attacking people. They are notoriously known (amongst the dog world anyway) for being bred for exactly the opposite. ANY APBT that would attack a human (farmer, or in the dog fighting ring) was shot on the spot. Human aggression was NEVER tolerated amongst this breed.

[-o< [-o< [-o<

Excellent post Stephanie. As much as people diss on those old time dog fighters, one thing is they NEVER tolerated human aggression, even in the slightest form. That is something I greatly respect them for.

Not to support dog fighting because I think it is inhumane and wrong BUT old time dog fighters never fought their dogs to the death on purpose. The dogs would fight and handlers would stop the fight because serious damage was done. Both handlers would also stand in the ring during the fight also.

exactly. One of the biggest problems with dog fighting today is the fact they put 2 dogs in the ring, and if one doesn't want to fight, too bad! Old time dog fighters wouldn't make a dog fight that didn't want to. Either way i think it's wrong...

 

[gracelyn]

all of it is cruel and inhumane.........honestly......i would rather see them attack the PEOPLE making them do this .........bull fighting....oh i hate it.......i cant watch it but i wish the bull would tromple them......i dont understand why on earth anyone would get enjoyment out of watching animals being mutilated and torn apart........there was a shirt i saw that said alot....it read "the more people i meet......the more i like my dog" lol......my husband says im too sensitive..he likes those discovery things.....like prey....with cheetas attacking.....the worst is the killer whale attacking a dolphin....i have to leave the room.....but at least that takes place in nature......part of life....but to set up these animals to hurt one another....for peoples enjoyment makes me sick to my stomach.......