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So I was taking Patch for our late afternoon/early evening walk the other day.

We were about to pass a mother with her two children, who was walking 2 staffy's... who looked like they were walking her!

anyways... usually i let patch have a little sniff and play with passing dogs (the usual ones we're made friends with) but the look of these two for some reason wasn't nice... so i sort of tried to go around them by walking up on the grass.

Anyways, before you know it both of the staffy's walked past my darling patch with this MEAN look on their face.... patch went to sniff their bottoms (which he does all the time) and one of them just went for patch's head!
HE TRIED TO BITE HIM and if it wasn't for my quick response of tugging patch away from them, he would've been bleeding!

Whate REALLY pis$ed me off was that the owner didn't say a word... no sorry or anything!

after giving patch a cuddle, we resumed our walk... he seemed fine, although a little shocked.

We walked past the park on the way back and came across the mother and her 2 kids and those VISCIOUS staffy's and one of the kids (who was about 6 years old!) said "sorry about before, what our dog did to yours!"
at least he had the decency to apologise!
The mother still didn't say a word!
i just responded with "don't worry, it's not your fault"

I'm sorry.... but if my dog tried to attack another passer-by's dog, I WOULD APOLOGISE! WOULD YOU!?!??
 

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I think I would have been sure my dog wasn't in reach of another dog in the first place! :)
so what am i supposed to do? cross the road every time another dog walks past?
we have SO many dogs in our neighbourhood and we're always bumping into them on our walks!

i've always let patch sniff and play with dogs who seem willing to play as well.

are you saying i should never let patch near another dog?
he's very well socialised because of puppy school every week and LOVES other dogs!!!!!!!!

what are you meant to do?
 

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No not saying that at all, but I do think you should approach other dogs with caution until your sure how they will react. If you didn't know these dogs then it's as much your responsibility as the other dog owners to ensure the meeting is uneventful.

Better safe than sorry! :wink:
 

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I tend to keep Yemi away from other dogs on leads. The park we go to is a huge park and very few dogs are on leads. Touch wood they are all great, well trained, sociable dogs. I am less confident of the dogs on leads as I feel there may be a reason for it. So I always call Yemi back and put her on her lead till the dog has gone by.

I do think that if your dog is likely to have a go at another dog it should be you that is taking more care. It wouldn't have hurt this woman when seeing patch approach to say my dogs don't like other dogs so pull you dog away.
Yemi has met hundreds of dogs over the last 3 or 4 months and thank God not one of them has had a go at her. She does seem to know how to respond to other dogs when meeting them. But I would be really annoyed if someone let her approach their dog without warning me, when they knew it was going to bite her. :evil:
 

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So you don't think you should ask if it's OK for your dog to approach :?

I get very agrivated when people just assume it's OK to let their dog sniff noses with mine, because it's not!
 

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So you don't think you should ask if it's OK for your dog to approach
I think it's common decency to say if you dog is likely to bite another dog. I truly can not understand why a person wouldn't warn you if your puppy starts to approach it.

As I said I don't let Yemi approach dogs who are on a lead without checking with the owner.

Of the 50 or 60 regular dogs that visit the park we go to every day all of them are non dog aggressive. I have never seen any signs of aggression from any of the regular or non regular dogs who go to the park.
They all greet each other like long lost friends, the puppies have a mad run and chase around and then we move off. I don't let her try and play with the old one who aren't interested in playing as she is rather energetic, but she doesn't really bother with them anyway. If we see an old lady with a ancient old pug of something similar I call Yemi in. Not because I think they will fight, but out of common respect for the lady and her dog.

Yemi is the only staff that is a regular. There are germans and Rotti's and a few other big dogs the rest tend to be various types of spaniels and other smaller dogs. Everyone knows the set up of this part of the park and they know that most of the dogs will be off their leads. To take an aggressive dog into this environment would be darn irresponsible.
I know for a fact (God forbid) if Yemi became dog aggressive I would never take her to the park and I certainly would warn anyone who looked like they were going to let there dog approach her.
I think that is the responsible way to own a dog. I would be mortified if Yemi attacked another dog and I would consider it MY FAULT.
 

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I agrre with Blittle.

One should NEVER allow their dogs to get in such close range to another dog that they are able to sniff it. You don't know what those dogs are like and many owners would not appreciate some strange dog going nose to nose with their dog anyways. I know when people do that to me I FREAK OUT. I demand my dogs are allowed their own personal space , free of other dogs.

Why do you want your dog sniffing other dogs anyways?

Sorry to not sound sympathetic but I beleive this incident was entirely your fault. Next time give the passing dogs some distance. You really don't neeed to let your dog say hi to everydog in your neighbourhood.
 

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Lisa said:
I agrre with Blittle.

One should NEVER allow their dogs to get in such close range to another dog that they are able to sniff it. You don't know what those dogs are like and many owners would not appreciate some strange dog going nose to nose with their dog anyways. I know when people do that to me I FREAK OUT. I demand my dogs are allowed their own personal space , free of other dogs.

Why do you want your dog sniffing other dogs anyways?

Sorry to not sound sympathetic but I beleive this incident was entirely your fault. Next time give the passing dogs some distance. You really don't neeed to let your dog say hi to everydog in your neighbourhood.

I agree, why would you allow your dog to sniff the behind of 2 dogs, which were not in control. Then you comforted your dog, which would have enforce any fear he did experience.

Cross the road, sit your dog in a stay till they pass, is what I would have done. I would not have been happy if you had done this to me neither.
 

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Sorry you learned that the hard way. But dog owning is ever a learning experience. I hope Patch is okay.

Paula
 

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Glad Patch is ok. BUT, no I would not apologize if my dog went after someones dog if they let them get too close. I do not expect dogs to sniff my dog while we are out and about. If your dog gets too close, I am not responsible for whatever may happen. JMO.
 

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i have to agree with blittle too. if you are going to allow patch to crawl into other dogs butts when they walk by you should get use that that reaction. if that had been me i would have given you heck for not controlling your dog as well as my dog tryin to snap patches head off. sorry but not all dogs are social nor do they have to be
 

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We've all made this mistake in some way, and people have been too polite to say. It took me a long time to realize at the kennel club that everyone did not appreciate Milo visiting them and their dogs - and they were too polite to say and nothing untoward ever occured.

Paula
 

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Not to jump on the bandwagon here but I too think you should think twice before allowing your dog to approach another dog. You/We have no idea how someone else has trained their dog and by putting yourself in this situation you are just asking for trouble.

As for your question.....should you cross the street everytime another dog comes near....If your goal is to walk your dog for exercise then this shouldn't be a big deal. Be the more responsible person and walk away from the issue especially if the person coming towards you has 2 dogs and kids with them. Do you expect them to cross the street? Hope not.

The best way to avoid an accident is to remove yourself from the possibility.
 

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I always walk my 2 away from other dogs, and have at times had to warn people that one of mine was dog aggressive and could they put a lead on theirs. (By law their dog should have had one on anyway) The filthy looks I get off some people. :roll: One woman in particular always would throw me filthy looks when I asked her to control her dog and we met on a narrow bush track and she was like "my dog is so friendly", while looking at my nasty staffy. Next thing her dog lunged at my goldy for no reason. :x
 

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I always walk my 2 away from other dogs, and have at times had to warn people that one of mine was dog aggressive and could they put a lead on theirs. (By law their dog should have had one on anyway) The filthy looks I get off some people. :roll: One woman in particular always would throw me filthy looks when I asked her to control her dog and we met on a narrow bush track and she was like "my dog is so friendly", while looking at my nasty staffy. Next thing her dog lunged at my goldy for no reason. :x
I can't stand people like that! They seem to be the first to have something nasty to say or give dirty looks but its their dog that does things like that.I too have to constantly tell people my German Shep. is dog aggressive. Most people just dont seem to get it b/c they see my Am. Pit bull playing with other dogs. It drives me nuts to constantly tell the same people shes not so nice with other dogs!............For Patches I'm glad he's okay. It could have been ugly. Maybe you should approach dogs he doesnt know in a more catious manner especially two dogs. And as you approach ask if their dogs are friendly w/ other dogs to be on the safe side. Some dogs tend to be a little leash aggressive or get very protective of other dogs they live with......I would not have apologized. I think your dog should have never gotten close enough to those dogs without askng the owners.
 

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I agree with the majority here. Even if Patch is friendly, keep his playdates to friends he knows. Also, it should be a bonus while teaching him to follow your cues on a walk. His instinct may be to make friends, but his training should tell him to stay with you :D
 

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There is equal fault here,the person with the naughty Staffies should have warned you that they were naughty and you probably need to be a little more carefull with who Patch says hello to.I tend to only let mine say hello to the regulars down the park.

But yes your right she should have apologised I certainly would have.
 

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I agree with Blittle as well. Prevention is necessary for the safety of your dog and theirs. That lesson was taught to me the hard way when a dog broke Tala's back leg when she was 5 months old.
 

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Well thanks for all your constructive criticism guys.

I've only had Patch for like 5 months and I really do NOT know what the protocol is for dog walking, and letting them approach etc! I'm still new at this.

At dog training, i allow him to play with the other dogs, who are regulars, and we all know each other.

When i walk him, I do so in the neighbourhood streets, always on a lead (it's the law).

Some other owners who are walking their dogs let their dogs come near Patch and they generally just have a little sniff and a play and we keep walking.

But these two staffies looked mean... they were lunging for Patch metres away.... so that's why i went up onto the grass, so they wouldn't be in close distance when walking past. But this lady just allowed them to attack Patch!!!!!! They were on long leads...I was in total shock! I didn't know what to do!

I think the safest thing to do now is to just let them pass.... that's what i did yesterday. A golden retriever was about to turn into our path and so i just stood with Patch at the corner and waited for them to pass. better to be safe than sorry i suppose.

and answering one of your questions, the reasons i let him approach other dogs is cos i want him to be dog friendly, and to be used to other dogs being around him.......... i guess i should just leave that to the dog park right???
 
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