what you do is pull the chain as hard as you can on the top of his neck and say NO every time he pulls on the leash. Then eventually he will just stop doing it.
Patch is choking himself! help
We started walking Patch as a pup with a harness.
Since we've started obedience training, we are using a thing like a check chain.. it's not as cruel as a check chain (my opinion) because the chain part starts at the bottom of the actual leash and the nylon collar thing goes around his neck. Sorry, I have forgotten the name of it.
Basically, when we walk Patch he is constantly choking himself on it! He pulls so far in front of us and he is choking and u can hear the vibrations in his throat, but he continues walking!
Last week, he actually gagged after tugging so hard! I had to stop and rub his neck cos I thought he was going to vomit. It's actually pretty scary!
How can we stop this?
Since we've started obedience training, we are using a thing like a check chain.. it's not as cruel as a check chain (my opinion) because the chain part starts at the bottom of the actual leash and the nylon collar thing goes around his neck. Sorry, I have forgotten the name of it.
Basically, when we walk Patch he is constantly choking himself on it! He pulls so far in front of us and he is choking and u can hear the vibrations in his throat, but he continues walking!
Last week, he actually gagged after tugging so hard! I had to stop and rub his neck cos I thought he was going to vomit. It's actually pretty scary!
How can we stop this?
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We do try to keep him beside us, that's what they taught us in obedience training... but sometimes he still manages to get in front. and even if he is beside me on a tight lead... he still pulls on the lead and chokes himself!
you would thing that gagging and dry-wreaching would stop him from doing it... it's like he doesn't care! he gets so excited that he wants to get in front and who cares if he chokes!!!!
he's good in other ways though, like he stops at corners when we're about to cross a road, etc.
it's just the choking thing!
you would thing that gagging and dry-wreaching would stop him from doing it... it's like he doesn't care! he gets so excited that he wants to get in front and who cares if he chokes!!!!
he's good in other ways though, like he stops at corners when we're about to cross a road, etc.
it's just the choking thing!
He will do that on his own when you become the Alpha. I guess some dogs will always think they are the alpha, and there isnt much you can do about it. Check this link out.Patch said:We do try to keep him beside us, that's what they taught us in obedience training... but sometimes he still manages to get in front. and even if he is beside me on a tight lead... he still pulls on the lead and chokes himself!
you would thing that gagging and dry-wreaching would stop him from doing it... it's like he doesn't care! he gets so excited that he wants to get in front and who cares if he chokes!!!!
he's good in other ways though, like he stops at corners when we're about to cross a road, etc.
it's just the choking thing!
http://www.nearr.com/foster/alpha.html
Hey just found this thread on training. Looks to have a lot of good info.
Hope it helps.
http://bulldogbreeds.com/discuss/viewtopic.php?p=87085&highlight=#87085
Hope it helps.
http://bulldogbreeds.com/discuss/viewtopic.php?p=87085&highlight=#87085
Patch said:We started walking Patch as a pup with a harness.
Since we've started obedience training, we are using a thing like a check chain.. it's not as cruel as a check chain (my opinion) because the chain part starts at the bottom of the actual leash and the nylon collar thing goes around his neck. Sorry, I have forgotten the name of it.
Basically, when we walk Patch he is constantly choking himself on it! He pulls so far in front of us and he is choking and u can hear the vibrations in his throat, but he continues walking!
Last week, he actually gagged after tugging so hard! I had to stop and rub his neck cos I thought he was going to vomit. It's actually pretty scary!
How can we stop this?
He's choking himself because the reward is worth the discomfort. He pulls to get to where he's going and he chokes but he gets to where he's going. Let me say that my experience thus far is my rhodesian ridgebacks, the biggest one is 110lbs. They walk on flat collars. No chokes no prongs.
I think another poster said what I'm about to - to teach heel let him forge (get ahead), say nothing, just change direction. Keep doing this until he gets irritated enough to pay attention to you. Then teach heel - praise. Do not continue to walk as he pulls.
Since he's gotten into pulling it will take some time to break him of this habit. But heel is not about the tool, heel is about maintaining a position.
JMO
Paula
It doesn't show him that you own him. It shows him that you'll get him to act the way you want by hurting/scaring him. IMHO, hitting a dog is not a good way to earn respect from him. Sure, you may scare him into behaving, but he won't respect you as a leader for it.pitbulllover said:
As far as the leash walking goes, Bella was a royal pain in the butt until my husband and I stopped giving her so much leash. We just shortened the leash up to about 18 inches or so to force her to walk by our side. We gave her lots of verbal praise and gave her treats occasionally whenever the leash wasn't tight. Pretty soon she realized, "Hey...walking by Mom and Dad is a good thing! I might get a treat!" Even now when we don't carry treats with us, she still walks well, right by our sides. It's like gambling...she keeps at it because she thinks she's going to hit the jackpot.
Now that we know that she is capable of walking nicely on a loose leash, she gets a quick pop of her prong collar (she's still in training...I'm hoping to switch to a flat collar soon) when the leash gets tight in my hands. I'm not a big fan of correcting a dog for a behavior when you haven't properly trained against it. It's not fair to the dog to punish it for something it doesn't even know is wrong, like pulling on the leash when you've just been letting him do it all along.
Wow guys, thanks for all your feedback!
Family of 5, Patch is actually almost 5 months old.
Also, we are not using a check chain per se.... i think it was called a martingale or something like that???? It's like a normal nylon collar around his neck, and where it joins at the top of the neck there is a chain that feeds through both ends and hooks onto the lead.
One of the trainers at OB training made me get it because she didn't want a check chain on little Patch.
The sporn halter looks fantastic... i think that's more of what we need. Not sure if the obedience trainers will let me use one of those though... all the dogs there have check chains and i've managed to sneak my martingale in... i've told them i won't use a check chain on him this young.
I will definately try the walking in the opposite direction tonight. I really hope he breaks the habit. We are trying so hard... and we have the lead really short, pretty much straight from our hip to him, so he has no way to move... but sometimes i let the lead go a bit, so I guess it's my fault!
Family of 5, Patch is actually almost 5 months old.
Also, we are not using a check chain per se.... i think it was called a martingale or something like that???? It's like a normal nylon collar around his neck, and where it joins at the top of the neck there is a chain that feeds through both ends and hooks onto the lead.
One of the trainers at OB training made me get it because she didn't want a check chain on little Patch.
The sporn halter looks fantastic... i think that's more of what we need. Not sure if the obedience trainers will let me use one of those though... all the dogs there have check chains and i've managed to sneak my martingale in... i've told them i won't use a check chain on him this young.
I will definately try the walking in the opposite direction tonight. I really hope he breaks the habit. We are trying so hard... and we have the lead really short, pretty much straight from our hip to him, so he has no way to move... but sometimes i let the lead go a bit, so I guess it's my fault!
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