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I've learned in the past couple of months that crating is just not something that has caught on in Australia. It's viewed as cruel (for the most part), and I think it's going to be a long time before that mindset changes, unfortunately.Lisa said:It sounds like Patch is not mature enough to handle all the freedom he is recieving. I suggest more crate or kennel time is in order. You must remember, he is a PUPPY, and if he is being destructive it is not his fault, it is yours. You can not blame a puppy for being puppy nor can you expect a an 8 month old to behave like an adult dog.