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Patch said:
yeovil red said:
Patch is an Aussie dog thankfully E Collars are banned there so its not an option.
really? i didn't know they were banned?
i wouldn't use one anyway.

and yes, maybe Patch is getting too much freedom... but i'm not locking him up in a crate for 12 hours a day, so it will have to be the backyard or nothing!

Apperently so they are banned in most states/territories of Australia or so I read somewhere.For what its worth I dont like the idea of crating either but its only personal choice before anyone goes mental....
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