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I typed "Pit Bull" into google and got this


This maybe some kind of pit MIX

and this


but this is definatly a Bull Terrier
 

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The first one looks like a Bandog. In that pic, it looks fat. No definition, but it could just be the way it's laying down.
 

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isn't that an am bully? The dog everyone thinks is a pit bull?
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Actually, though quite sad, it IS a Pit Bull. Some people are breeding Pitties for that "bully look"..I can't stand it. I was looking through quite a few breeder's websites who breed for that look and their dogs don't look great, most of them are kept out on chains, and they have visible faults that you can see by simply looking at one picture. Then they put on their site that they breed for good conformation LMAO. One thing I've noticed: Their forequarters are never straight and they're almost always cowhocked. That alone should keep them from breeding them.

And people are breeding dogs that look like that!
http://muglestonspitbullfarm.com/images/lobo080504_lg.jpg
http://muglestonspitbullfarm.com/images/9_cc3290_25_lg.jpg

The second picture is definately a Bull Terrier.
 

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lobos a good looking am bully,but he aint no apbt and niether is the dog at the top of the thread....
 

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StarrPit said:
Actually, though quite sad, it IS a Pit Bull. Some people are breeding Pitties for that "bully look"..I can't stand it. I was looking through quite a few breeder's websites who breed for that look and their dogs don't look great, most of them are kept out on chains, and they have visible faults that you can see by simply looking at one picture. Then they put on their site that they breed for good conformation LMAO. One thing I've noticed: Their forequarters are never straight and they're almost always cowhocked. That alone should keep them from breeding them.

And people are breeding dogs that look like that!
http://muglestonspitbullfarm.com/images/lobo080504_lg.jpg
http://muglestonspitbullfarm.com/images/9_cc3290_25_lg.jpg

The second picture is definately a Bull Terrier.
Those dogs might be "pit bulls" in the general sense, but in NO way are they American Pit Bull Terriers. You can call a dog whatever you want, but just because you call a Zebra a Thoroughbred doesn't mean it is one & doesn't mean they would allow it to run in the Kentucky Derby
 

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No, they are so called selectively bred American Pit Bull Terriers. Extremes can come out of any breeds...just look at American show line GSDs. I wouldn't consider anybody breeding Pitties to look like that as responsible. The breed standard calls for a dog of athletic build. Ha, I can't see anything athletic in any of those dogs.

Take a look at this video. All of those dogs are American Pit Bull Terriers, purebred. I'm bripitbull and have already left a comment for them about their "selective breeding" thing...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrWV...fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=66888640
 

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No, they are so called selectively bred American Pit Bull Terriers. Extremes can come out of any breeds...just look at American show line GSDs. I wouldn't consider anybody breeding Pitties to look like that as responsible. The breed standard calls for a dog of athletic build. Ha, I can't see anything athletic in any of those dogs.

Take a look at this video. All of those dogs are American Pit Bull Terriers, purebred. I'm bripitbull and have already left a comment for them about their "selective breeding" thing...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrWV...fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=66888640
yeah seletivly breeding as in,selecting a oeb and a english bulldog and breeding them into amstaffs and calling them pits,lol....those dogs suck and it looked like a big joke to me,not only do the dogs suck,the people involved with them are a bunch of ignorant sterotypes,lol....
 

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StarrPit said:
No, they are so called selectively bred American Pit Bull Terriers. Extremes can come out of any breeds...just look at American show line GSDs. I wouldn't consider anybody breeding Pitties to look like that as responsible. The breed standard calls for a dog of athletic build. Ha, I can't see anything athletic in any of those dogs.

Take a look at this video. All of those dogs are American Pit Bull Terriers, purebred. I'm bripitbull and have already left a comment for them about their "selective breeding" thing...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrWV...fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=66888640
yeah seletivly breeding as in,selecting a oeb and a english bulldog and breeding them into amstaffs and calling them pits,lol....those dogs suck and it looked like a big joke to me,not only do the dogs suck,the people involved with them are a bunch of ignorant sterotypes,lol....
I was going to say.. where's our white collar workers to reprazint?

Aside from being VERY bully, they are FAT. Just FAT.
 

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StarrPit said:
No, they are so called selectively bred American Pit Bull Terriers. Extremes can come out of any breeds...just look at American show line GSDs. I wouldn't consider anybody breeding Pitties to look like that as responsible. The breed standard calls for a dog of athletic build. Ha, I can't see anything athletic in any of those dogs.

Take a look at this video. All of those dogs are American Pit Bull Terriers, purebred. I'm bripitbull and have already left a comment for them about their "selective breeding" thing...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrWV...fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=66888640
yeah seletivly breeding as in,selecting a oeb and a english bulldog and breeding them into amstaffs and calling them pits,lol....those dogs suck and it looked like a big joke to me,not only do the dogs suck,the people involved with them are a bunch of ignorant sterotypes,lol....
LOL.

It's true that with selective breeding you can begin to get out of standard dogs....but not just in 1 breeding or even in a few short years. These types of "pit bulls" popped up almost overnight & most have fake pedigrees, hung peds, or even blank peds (hmmmm....I wonder why). Mayday was a HUGE APBT weighing in at a whopping 70-75lbs chain weight but mind you he was campaigned in the mid to upper 50's. Almost all of those "large" Colby dogs were fat at chain weight & were also campaigned in the fifties. If you breed one out of standard freak that came from a solid line of within standard bulldogs to another of the same, chances are ALL the pups will come out a normal size. Just because someone breeds a large dog to a large dog doesn't mean the pups will also be large dogs.........unless there was some outcrossing to other breeds thrown in for good measure.

Camelot dogs are mixed breeds
Eddington dogs (Whopper) are mixed breeds
Gotti dogs are mixed breeds
Razor's Edge dogs are mixed breeds
Muggleston's dogs are mixed breeds
.................& I could go on & on & on.

So if one has even 1 of those dogs in their dog's ped, then the "APBT" they thought they had is not truly an APBT but rather a mixed breed dog. It's just the facts.
 

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Miakoda said:
calikeith said:
StarrPit said:
No, they are so called selectively bred American Pit Bull Terriers. Extremes can come out of any breeds...just look at American show line GSDs. I wouldn't consider anybody breeding Pitties to look like that as responsible. The breed standard calls for a dog of athletic build. Ha, I can't see anything athletic in any of those dogs.

Take a look at this video. All of those dogs are American Pit Bull Terriers, purebred. I'm bripitbull and have already left a comment for them about their "selective breeding" thing...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrWV...fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=66888640
yeah seletivly breeding as in,selecting a oeb and a english bulldog and breeding them into amstaffs and calling them pits,lol....those dogs suck and it looked like a big joke to me,not only do the dogs suck,the people involved with them are a bunch of ignorant sterotypes,lol....
LOL.

It's true that with selective breeding you can begin to get out of standard dogs....but not just in 1 breeding or even in a few short years. These types of "pit bulls" popped up almost overnight & most have fake pedigrees, hung peds, or even blank peds (hmmmm....I wonder why). Mayday was a HUGE APBT weighing in at a whopping 70-75lbs chain weight but mind you he was campaigned in the mid to upper 50's. Almost all of those "large" Colby dogs were fat at chain weight & were also campaigned in the fifties. If you breed one out of standard freak that came from a solid line of within standard bulldogs to another of the same, chances are ALL the pups will come out a normal size. Just because someone breeds a large dog to a large dog doesn't mean the pups will also be large dogs.........unless there was some outcrossing to other breeds thrown in for good measure.

Camelot dogs are mixed breeds
Eddington dogs (Whopper) are mixed breeds
Gotti dogs are mixed breeds
Razor's Edge dogs are mixed breeds
Muggleston's dogs are mixed breeds
.................& I could go on & on & on.

So if one has even 1 of those dogs in their dog's ped, then the "APBT" they thought they had is not truly an APBT but rather a mixed breed dog. It's just the facts.
i tend to agree with that statement also,to bad breeders are so dishonest,ya know...
 

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Yup, it took hundreds of generations of select breeding to create the breeds we have today. These dogs only took one or two generations..it must be some sort of magic.

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StarrPit said:
Actually, though quite sad, it IS a Pit Bull. Some people are breeding Pitties for that "bully look"..I can't stand it. I was looking through quite a few breeder's websites who breed for that look and their dogs don't look great, most of them are kept out on chains, and they have visible faults that you can see by simply looking at one picture. Then they put on their site that they breed for good conformation LMAO. One thing I've noticed: Their forequarters are never straight and they're almost always cowhocked. That alone should keep them from breeding them.

And people are breeding dogs that look like that!
http://muglestonspitbullfarm.com/images/lobo080504_lg.jpg
http://muglestonspitbullfarm.com/images/9_cc3290_25_lg.jpg

The second picture is definately a Bull Terrier.
No it is not a Pit Bull at all. Thats why I posted it, you type in Pit Bull and get something else. It is possibly a Pit Bull mix or some type of bandog. And they get the "bully look" by cross breeding in other breeds. Yeah I've also noticed that on their sites, they have some of the worse looking dogs and say they breed for conformation along with work, temperament and health yet do nothing to prove so. But people fall for it, a lot of them I've noticed have health problems.

What you posted to mugleston is a known puppy peddler and breeder of bandogs. Its easy for people who don't know to be suckered in and think those are APBTs when they are really crossbred. They have hung papers. Just like many other lines Whopper known mix with papers, Dagger dogs, some Camelot dogs and some Razor Edge dogs. Being that Gotti has hung papers its also suspect of what he is really bred with, bandog, they admited to hanging papers so in the least the pedigree is incorrect. You never find it interesting that these dogs look like Bandogs and not just large APBTs??? There are large APBTs and they look like APBTs not like bandogs.
 

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Bandogs

http://www.moloss.com/brd/ab/b001/impfacts.html

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/americanbandoggemastiff.htm

This is breeder of bandogs http://www.buffdogs.com/
I have seen many breeders with dogs like Redbull and Matty claiming that they are APBTs and have hung papers.

http://www.buffdogs.com/images/47b4d707b3127cceb70c9d70a9970000001610.jpg






This one doesn't even have APBT in it, but some people would swear up and down that it is how a Pit Bull is supposed to look and if you asked them if this was a Pit Bull they'd say of course.
http://www.molosserofthemonth.com/motm/year/2005/05/
 

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What about the Avant line...they breed for bigger dogs but not bully and certainly not mixed. I got mine from a kennel in Dallas called pulliamspits with ADBA reg. dogs
 

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Miakoda said:
calikeith said:
StarrPit said:
No, they are so called selectively bred American Pit Bull Terriers. Extremes can come out of any breeds...just look at American show line GSDs. I wouldn't consider anybody breeding Pitties to look like that as responsible. The breed standard calls for a dog of athletic build. Ha, I can't see anything athletic in any of those dogs.

Take a look at this video. All of those dogs are American Pit Bull Terriers, purebred. I'm bripitbull and have already left a comment for them about their "selective breeding" thing...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrWV...fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=66888640
yeah seletivly breeding as in,selecting a oeb and a english bulldog and breeding them into amstaffs and calling them pits,lol....those dogs suck and it looked like a big joke to me,not only do the dogs suck,the people involved with them are a bunch of ignorant sterotypes,lol....
LOL.

It's true that with selective breeding you can begin to get out of standard dogs....but not just in 1 breeding or even in a few short years. These types of "pit bulls" popped up almost overnight & most have fake pedigrees, hung peds, or even blank peds (hmmmm....I wonder why). Mayday was a HUGE APBT weighing in at a whopping 70-75lbs chain weight but mind you he was campaigned in the mid to upper 50's. Almost all of those "large" Colby dogs were fat at chain weight & were also campaigned in the fifties. If you breed one out of standard freak that came from a solid line of within standard bulldogs to another of the same, chances are ALL the pups will come out a normal size. Just because someone breeds a large dog to a large dog doesn't mean the pups will also be large dogs.........unless there was some outcrossing to other breeds thrown in for good measure.

Camelot dogs are mixed breeds
Eddington dogs (Whopper) are mixed breeds
Gotti dogs are mixed breeds
Razor's Edge dogs are mixed breeds
Muggleston's dogs are mixed breeds
.................& I could go on & on & on.

So if one has even 1 of those dogs in their dog's ped, then the "APBT" they thought they had is not truly an APBT but rather a mixed breed dog. It's just the facts.

I agree with this statement.

If you look on these breeders pages they most often put " " around the word "pit bull". Those dogs are not pit bulls, they are so far removed from them its sick.
 
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