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Does anyone know of anywhere to get some good information on this mix. I am hoping that with a little bit of pibull in it, a bull mastiff mix will have less problems with snoring, slobbering, etc while also being more calm and mild mannered than a pure pit. Has anyone on this board owned a breed like this or have any ideas? Thanks
 

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I HAVE ZEEK WHICH IS MY BIG MAN AND HE IS MIXED WITH BOTH AND HE IS THE MOST LAID BACK DOG I KNOW. HE LOVES EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING....HE GETS ALONE WITH ALL DOGS AND KIDS.......HE IS A GREAT DOG......HE IS 6 YEARS OLD....
 

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i thought you were going to say to help improve the bullmastiffs health but for slobbering and snoring thats just wrong in my eyes like i ssaid if it was to improve the bullmastiffs health issues i think in the right program it could work
but then again the pitbulls genes dominate so much you might end up with a pit bull looking dog not a more athletic healthy bullmastiff( which i would love to see and own)
 

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This is not a breed, it is a mix

Not saying anything against mixes, I have 2 myself, but to go looking for someone who intentionally mix-breeds is, in my mind, only giving strength to the many irresponsible breeders already on the planet. Mixing one breed with another does nothing to "improve" EITHER breed - it simply mixes the two. The result may be perfectly lovely dogs, but they are not a breed. Yes, I understand that all modern recognized breeds were originally created by people, but don't ya' think we have enough at this point? Surely there are enough dogs are there looking for homes that you can find one that suits you!

Now, if you're looking for a dog with the size & temperament of a bullmastiff but with less drool & snoring problems, you might want to (1) contact a variety of REPUTABLE bullmastiff breeders and ask how their dogs are in this department; (2) look for other, similar breeds (some english mastiffs are not being bred to humongous size and retain enough muzzle to have better airflow); or (3) check out your local rescues or Petfinder and see if there's a mix out there you can adopt.
 

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I agree...

Anyone who is crossing two breeds runs a 50/50 shot at getting all the bad traits from each side, and ending up with genetic trainwrecks. It is a crapshoot, no matter how you rationalize it, you can never guarentee what traits will be dominant, good or bad. Some pups may get lucky, but others may suffer genetic problems. 50/50 is NOT good enough odds for me to see it as a good idea.

One more thought...
There woudl be no way to tell before hand how these pups would develop, you could have weird looking pits, or messed up looking mastiffs, or a combo of everything in between, but it may be different every breeding.
 

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livn4him99 said:
Does anyone know of anywhere to get some good information on this mix. I am hoping that with a little bit of pibull in it, a bull mastiff mix will have less problems with snoring, slobbering, etc while also being more calm and mild mannered than a pure pit. Has anyone on this board owned a breed like this or have any ideas? Thanks


You may be interested in looking at an American Bandog Mastiff. Check them out online, may be what you are looking for and there are several existing breeders out there.

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/americanbandoggemastiff.htm
 

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It makes me laugh when people get on there soap-box about mixing breeds, first of all you all have your priorities wrong. Forget the fact these breeds are mixed, cuz its more important that the dogs are healthy in body and temperament. So what if they're mixed!!!! As long as the dogs live healthy and happy lives with a person who cares about them, what does it matter that theyre mixed. And my second and last point is that THE MAJORITY of dog breeds today ARE MIXED! The fact is that they're established, and thats the reason you have no opinion on how they became that particular breed. :D
 

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I don't have a problem with mixed breeds at all. BUT I don't see the point in breeding a bull mastiff to a pitbull, with out some real goals in mind. That is how dogs end up in pounds, someone just thinks that it would be a good cross, isn't good enough.
 

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livn4him99 said:
Does anyone know of anywhere to get some good information on this mix. I am hoping that with a little bit of pibull in it, a bull mastiff mix will have less problems with snoring, slobbering, etc while also being more calm and mild mannered than a pure pit. Has anyone on this board owned a breed like this or have any ideas? Thanks
Do you have Bull Mastiffs right now? Or are you just looking for a dog?
 

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I've got no beef with mutts!

Ice&Blade said:
It makes me laugh when people get on there soap-box about mixing breeds, first of all you all have your priorities wrong. Forget the fact these breeds are mixed, cuz its more important that the dogs are healthy in body and temperament. So what if they're mixed!!!! As long as the dogs live healthy and happy lives with a person who cares about them, what does it matter that theyre mixed. And my second and last point is that THE MAJORITY of dog breeds today ARE MIXED! The fact is that they're established, and thats the reason you have no opinion on how they became that particular breed. :D
In fact, I have two myself (pit/boxer and sheltie/something). And I'm perfectly aware that most of our modern "breeds" were developed by mixing dogs of different types or breeds in hopes of developing a dog that was better at a given task (even if that task was "look pretty and keep a lap warm."

What I object to, in these modern times when more than a MILLION dogs are killed in the US alone for lack of homes, is that people who are looking for a companion automatically think "breed". Sure, if you're looking for a hunting partner, it makes sense to find someone breeding good retrievers. But if you're looking for a moderately mellow pal that doesn't snore, SURELY you can find a dog that fits the bill and adopt him from a shelter or rescue! I agree absolutely that the important thing is that "the dogs live healthy and happy lives with a person who cares about them" - but it's also important to all those dogs who are indiscriminately bred and end up abandoned and living their last 3 weeks in a shelter, hoping to find a new home.

So, livn4him99, call up Petfinder.org and see what's out there - odds are that there's a bullmastiff mix out there just waiting for you.
 

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Ice&Blade said:
It makes me laugh when people get on there soap-box about mixing breeds, first of all you all have your priorities wrong. Forget the fact these breeds are mixed, cuz its more important that the dogs are healthy in body and temperament. So what if they're mixed!!!! As long as the dogs live healthy and happy lives with a person who cares about them, what does it matter that theyre mixed. And my second and last point is that THE MAJORITY of dog breeds today ARE MIXED! The fact is that they're established, and thats the reason you have no opinion on how they became that particular breed. :D
Don't remember your name from the other board, but I remember Ice and Blade's names. Where's the new pictures? How ya doin?
 

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My name from back then was "Norteenorf", and i'm fine thanks, the boys are doing good to. Got some new pics on my "im back with Ice n Blade" thread, think its in the Introduce yourself section.

If nobody has seen these, ithink you should all take a look. I think theyre very cute but i dont agree with the breeding ethics, wondering what everybodies opinions are on them. www.miniboxers.com
 

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Our ultimate goal is to develop a sturdy toy/mini sized family companion dog in two different breed types:
One that is black and tan, blue in tan, or brown and tan in color that resembles a Rottweiler in miniature.
The other one that is Fawn(red) or Brindle in color, with or without white markings, that resembles a Boxer in miniature.
There are several different breeds of dogs being used in creation of these new types of dogs. The Pug is used in both the Mini Rotts and the Mini Boxers.


Um, yeah - 'cause there really aren't any sturdy small dog breeds out there now.

There is NO Rottweiler blood in our Mini Rotts/Carlin Pinschers.
Depending on the litter, there may or may not be Boxer blood in the Mini Boxers.


So - that seems a little deceptive...

Of course, being experimental breeds/strains of dogs, they are not recognized by the major kennel clubs. It takes many decades for a new strain of dog to be considered a "breed". There are very few breeders working at developing these dogs at this time, making them rather rare.

And, I'm sure, rather expensive.

All in all...... ugh.
 
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