Original Link: http://bulldogbreeds.com/discuss/viewtopic.php?t=3625PeterC said:amocat
culling for me is one thing. Taking it out of the genetic pool. In most cases, it means a trip to the vet.
So, you either put the pup or dog down or or you spay it (neuter).
However, for me, temperment has no forgiveness.
It the dog has obvious genetic faults but is a great pet (great temperment), then it deserves to live and will make a family happy. Like blue eyes or roach back or cleft pallet.
However, if it is shy, nervy, does not absolutley adore kids, reclusive, then it has to be put down. IMO. I have no tolerance because I KNOW HOW CHILD BITES HAPPEN.
I have this test at 6 months of age. I let a small child grab my dog's tail HARD and swing it. I also let the child grab my dog's feet and squeeze HARD!!!! Of course, I have total control over the dog's head. If the dog does not think this is NOT the most wonderful thing that ever happened to him, he is gone. If the dog does not like this brutal treatment from a child, it should be dead. Bulldogs should have pure love of kids, no matter what. Kids possess no threat.
I also shoot .22 gun in my house at 8 weeks to see which ones are noise sensitive. Let's just say there is a HUGE difference between dogs bred for nerves and dogs bred for looks. Laughing Yes, this is a test of nerves.
Now, some of you may think this is harsh. hmmmmmmmm what do you suppose would happen to a nervy dog when he is eating his bone and a kid comes from behind and grabs his swinging tail? Do you think this is an unlikely scenario? NO. This is reality.
Nervy dogs bite kids. Not monster pit bulls. And to me, I would kill 1000 nervy dogs before I would let 1 child be nipped. That is why culling is necessary.
I would have NO hesitation if my dogs EVER EVER growled at a kid (for any any any reason), to put the dog down. Growling shows me bad nerves and to a kid????????????? That is a one way ticket to a vet.
Breeding is hard Amocat. That is why most people should not do it. I am not a breeder. I don't have the time or the heart. It is cruel, especially if you are breeding working dogs.
I have seen people shoot their 1 year old dog because it came off the sleeve. That is breeding working dogs not pets. Zero tolerance. The end product is obvious. Mentally smart, nerves of steel, loves (not like....love) kids, and very high balanced drives.
Culling is necessary if you want to breed well. What is the difference between a BYB and a good responsible breeder of working dogs? Culling, screening ownerns, genetic testing, temperment testing (if it is a protection breed.......then prove your breeding).
I believe at the true grit boad (AB board), how many breeders believed in culling. It was 99% and the 1% was brutalized.
Peter C...That was the worst thing I have read. you should not be aloud to have a dog :evil:[/quote]