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i feed Lolita 15oz a day and she is 55 lbs. I know she's an adult, but that's just a reference. and Orson gets 22 oz a day and he's 70lbs.
both arent very active b/c of Lo's bad leg and O's arthritis, but even when they were active they didnt eat much more.
 

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I've always mixed in some raw for Hudson. Been on the look out for some good deals and a farmer nearby is giving me 30lbs for free! Pretty excited. Also learnt of a local grocery store that gives away bones and organs. It's a bit if a drive though. Otherwise I have not found any decent deals anywhere.

I only plan on feeding it to Hudson for now since he knows how to eat haha. LittleFoot is still being hand fed and will continue to get the regular stuff I add but once she gets better I'd like to introduce more for her too. If she doesn't control her eating I may just need to grind up bone for her. The freakin' monster ate my peanut butter sanwhich whole the other day, still in the bag! She was pretty sick for a couple days until the ziplock passed.
 

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Ok so we have picked up the meat and ready for our first raw trial. I've calculated how much Hudson needs but because we have a Mac some of the spreadsheets I couldn't read and still have a couple questions. I've tried reading raw feeding examples from other sites but they just mostly list what they feed, and not a day by day example. Does each meal need to contain all three components? Or as long as they just get all three in one day thats sufficient?

The meat we receive is pork and beef. Hudson is used to having chicken, turkey, fish and eggs mixed with his kibble so it isn't a huge jump to red meat. When he has had samples in the past he did fine. We have various meats on bone and organs. They are individually wrapped so I think I will cut some organ and throw it in or use as treats.

I have only found out about the one other store that gives meat for free or cheap but it's not a regular or guarranteed thing. So I have a couple weeks to find more to keep it going. If it runs the same cost as kibble that's obv fine.
 

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I just started adding raw to the kibble diets for my dogs last weekend. Raw in the morning, kibble in the evening. So far it's been all chicken leg quarters. Adding in some venison tomorrow morning. Fish oil is given daily and eggs two to three times a week.

Dogs seem to be doing really well so far.
 

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I have noticed a huge difference with Horse on the RMB diet, eye goo is gone, hair is shinny, energy is up and he has gained some weight (which is a good thing for him). So far I am really happy with it.

We have been just bone in chicken for about a week and a half, our trainer provides ground organ meat and tripe so I added a little of that to his food this afternoon.
 

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I have yet to start my ab on raw... I have stock up a lot of raw for him, but confused on when to start. I am thinking about not feeding him for a whole day until his stomach is empty of kibbles then feed him raw. Good or bad idea?

I know a livestock that has a lot of carcases: cows, pigs, chicken and goats; but they told me they do not recommend feeding it to dog because the animal death is unknown. I think the pigs' carcases are not good, but what about the cows, goats and chickens' carcases?
 

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Fasting a dog for a day won't hurt him. I do that if I have to switch kibble unexpectedly. The raw I just threw in - dog gets raw in the morning and kibble at night.

As for the unknown deaths, I wouldn't feed those to my dogs. They could have been sick and you don't know if you could inadvertently give your dog some disease.
 

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So Hudson has been on a raw diet for two weeks now. Thought I'd include my .2c to date.

He was always a good weight and had nice muscle so no real big change there. Only in the last couple of days have I noticed his muscles become slightly more defined. His waist was always thin but I also notice it has tucked on the sides, and not just the bottom.

He still gets tears, has a bit of an inflamed chin and itchy but I always assumed these were seasonal related. Too early to tell.

His coat is beautiful as usual :) and the smell of his frito feet have changed slightly. Not worse at least!

The cons would have to be the inconvenience. Getting meat for a low cost, if you try. Making sure the meat is fresh... Hudson vomits if he eats anything too cold or hot. We can do only slightly frozen. The smell... It's been raining a lot so he us fed inside. I don't like the raw meat smell that lingers in my living room. This also means I disinfect his crate twice a day.

I am not completely sold on raw yet. The plan was to do it for a while, not a quick trial. When we're done we'll decide all raw, kibble or mixed.

I have to say my favorite part is seeing people's reaction when he tears into the meat outside. My husband jokes that they will think we are murderers to feed our beast haha.
 

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So Hudson has been on a raw diet for two weeks now. Thought I'd include my .2c to date.

He was always a good weight and had nice muscle so no real big change there. Only in the last couple of days have I noticed his muscles become slightly more defined. His waist was always thin but I also notice it has tucked on the sides, and not just the bottom.

He still gets tears, has a bit of an inflamed chin and itchy but I always assumed these were seasonal related. Too early to tell.

His coat is beautiful as usual :) and the smell of his frito feet have changed slightly. Not worse at least!

The cons would have to be the inconvenience. Getting meat for a low cost, if you try. Making sure the meat is fresh... Hudson vomits if he eats anything too cold or hot. We can do only slightly frozen. The smell... It's been raining a lot so he us fed inside. I don't like the raw meat smell that lingers in my living room. This also means I disinfect his crate twice a day.

I am not completely sold on raw yet. The plan was to do it for a while, not a quick trial. When we're done we'll decide all raw, kibble or mixed.

I have to say my favorite part is seeing people's reaction when he tears into the meat outside. My husband jokes that they will think we are murderers to feed our beast haha.
Its nice to hear Hudson is progessing well. Did you notice anything with his poo? I think I'll take photos and do a before and after look for my ab, I'm just waiting for my dog run kennel so I can feed him outside.

:shock: goes the neighbors lol
 

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I have a few questions regarding raw food and would appreciate any advice, talking to local pet shops seems to get you inconsistent answers and even so called dog nutritionists have giving me different opinions.

First off Winston is 9 months and weighs 38.8lbs. I’m currently feeding Urban Carnivore (been on it for about 2 months), we switch from chicken and beef but we’re sticking mostly with beef as we’ve been advised the chicken may be a little fatty for his age and his stools are darker and firmer with beef. I chose the Urban Carnivore as it’s locally made and apparently 100% natural and is always available to us. Making our own raw food isn’t something we can take on right now so we have to use prepared frozen.

Questions:
1) I feed him 16oz per day based on the lower end of the feeding guidelines however in the last 2 months he has not gained a pound in weight. We keep him fairly active with about 1-2 hours per day of walking/training outdoors. I’m curious if I should be feeding him more? He’s not loosing weight and looks fit and lean but not skinny.
2) Should I be supplementing anything in addition on a regular/daily bases such as full bones or veggies? This is what I get mixed answers on all the time. I understand one problem with prepared food is the ratio of bone to meat is inconsistent but is this something to be overly concerned about? Are veggies needed or are they more optional and if you feed veggies do they have to be pre-digested? I sometimes feed him whole carrots or bananas at least 3 hours after eating protein, good or bad idea?
3) Somewhat unrelated but I also feed my two cats raw food and would like to feed them the same food, just curious if others do this as well. I’ve been told the nutritional requirements are different however there are many raw food products for cats and dogs; Urban Carnivore is one of them so I’m confused on what the difference would be.

Thanks in advance, any answers or general comments would be helpful.
 

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My personal response...

1) Our dog hasn't gained weight since Feb, when he was 9 months old. He actually lost a couple then came back. All on kibble. He is done most of his growing now and will just be filling out for the next year or so. You won't see big changes on the scale.

2) Do you mean if you are going all raw? I do not supplement veggies, dogs don't need carbs. You can if you want but it's not going to affect his health, unless they are bad veggies like onion etc... I believe if you scroll a few pages back Orsondogge mentions the meat:bone:eek:rgan ratio. It's not too hard to figure out once you start because his stool will tell you.

3) I supplement raw in my cats diet. Since moving to the US she has had nothing but problems with kibble. Some things she'll eat, some she won't. I think because cats don't chew much it can be more difficult, so anything with bones or chewy organs she'll just lick until its dry. My last cat had no problem eating birds and rodents whole. You wouldn't give your cat a rack of ribs... the only real difference I have learnt is not to give a cat too much fish, maybe once a week. Their small bodies are far more affected by the mercury content than dogs. If your cat will eat raw then go for it...
 

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My personal response...

1) Our dog hasn't gained weight since Feb, when he was 9 months old. He actually lost a couple then came back. All on kibble. He is done most of his growing now and will just be filling out for the next year or so. You won't see big changes on the scale.

2) Do you mean if you are going all raw? I do not supplement veggies, dogs don't need carbs. You can if you want but it's not going to affect his health, unless they are bad veggies like onion etc... I believe if you scroll a few pages back Orsondogge mentions the meat:bone:eek:rgan ratio. It's not too hard to figure out once you start because his stool will tell you.

3) I supplement raw in my cats diet. Since moving to the US she has had nothing but problems with kibble. Some things she'll eat, some she won't. I think because cats don't chew much it can be more difficult, so anything with bones or chewy organs she'll just lick until its dry. My last cat had no problem eating birds and rodents whole. You wouldn't give your cat a rack of ribs... the only real difference I have learnt is not to give a cat too much fish, maybe once a week. Their small bodies are far more affected by the mercury content than dogs. If your cat will eat raw then go for it...
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I have a few questions regarding raw food and would appreciate any advice, talking to local pet shops seems to get you inconsistent answers and even so called dog nutritionists have giving me different opinions.

First off Winston is 9 months and weighs 38.8lbs. I’m currently feeding Urban Carnivore (been on it for about 2 months), we switch from chicken and beef but we’re sticking mostly with beef as we’ve been advised the chicken may be a little fatty for his age and his stools are darker and firmer with beef. I chose the Urban Carnivore as it’s locally made and apparently 100% natural and is always available to us. Making our own raw food isn’t something we can take on right now so we have to use prepared frozen.

Questions:
1) I feed him 16oz per day based on the lower end of the feeding guidelines however in the last 2 months he has not gained a pound in weight. We keep him fairly active with about 1-2 hours per day of walking/training outdoors. I’m curious if I should be feeding him more? He’s not loosing weight and looks fit and lean but not skinny.
2) Should I be supplementing anything in addition on a regular/daily bases such as full bones or veggies? This is what I get mixed answers on all the time. I understand one problem with prepared food is the ratio of bone to meat is inconsistent but is this something to be overly concerned about? Are veggies needed or are they more optional and if you feed veggies do they have to be pre-digested? I sometimes feed him whole carrots or bananas at least 3 hours after eating protein, good or bad idea?
3) Somewhat unrelated but I also feed my two cats raw food and would like to feed them the same food, just curious if others do this as well. I’ve been told the nutritional requirements are different however there are many raw food products for cats and dogs; Urban Carnivore is one of them so I’m confused on what the difference would be.

Thanks in advance, any answers or general comments would be helpful.
I feed 1/2 cup kibble in the morning (acana) to both my dogs. Around 1pm I give them a bone with a lower meat content. The cuts I give vary- beef neck bone, back rib bone, marrow bone... Anything thats mostly hard bone with some meat. I do this mostly for dental health and to keep them busy. The ripping and tearing of meat or sucking out the marrow from the middle of the bone is good for them. However, their poop was getting quite hard. So i started throwing in some tripe and heart. I don't consider heart an organ so I use it as meat. So I switch off between tripe and heart every other day.Then at night my pups get another 1/2 cup of kibble. And about twice a month they each get a whole trout to eat in place of a kibble meal. It took me forever to figure this out because there is no simple answer. All dogs metabolize differently. I just watched their poop and adjusted accordingly.

And like tina said, no need for fruits or veggies. Especially fruit- it contains lots of sugar and you can cause a yeast problem by doing this. Once and awhile I will throw Murphy a piece of lettuce mainly because its funny to watch him eat it. It wont hurt them, but its not necessary.

Also, you may want to look into an enzyme if you choose to feed all raw. Its not necessary for all dogs, but its something to keep in mind. I have my dogs on probiotics as well because they both seem to have yeast problems.
 

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My personal response...

1) Our dog hasn't gained weight since Feb, when he was 9 months old. He actually lost a couple then came back. All on kibble. He is done most of his growing now and will just be filling out for the next year or so. You won't see big changes on the scale.

2) Do you mean if you are going all raw? I do not supplement veggies, dogs don't need carbs. You can if you want but it's not going to affect his health, unless they are bad veggies like onion etc... I believe if you scroll a few pages back Orsondogge mentions the meat:bone:eek:rgan ratio. It's not too hard to figure out once you start because his stool will tell you.

3) I supplement raw in my cats diet. Since moving to the US she has had nothing but problems with kibble. Some things she'll eat, some she won't. I think because cats don't chew much it can be more difficult, so anything with bones or chewy organs she'll just lick until its dry. My last cat had no problem eating birds and rodents whole. You wouldn't give your cat a rack of ribs... the only real difference I have learnt is not to give a cat too much fish, maybe once a week. Their small bodies are far more affected by the mercury content than dogs. If your cat will eat raw then go for it...
Thanks!
I just questioned the weight as our vet mentioned he should be gaining weight but to me he looks good so I wasn't too concerned so it's good to know this is typical.
I did read the thread but I didn't see anything regarding ratios of meat and bone in prepared food. But I do what this stools and things are consistent in a good way so I guess not much to be concerned about. We actually use the veggies and fruit more as a treat, he goes crazy over them and I feel better giving his that over typical dog treats.
Yeah one of my cats can't eat kibble anymore due to health reasons and feeding wet food is three times the price as raw so it was a no brainer for us but it did take a lot of work to get them on the raw but they seem to love it now.
 

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If you are buying prepacked raw then its ready to go. If you are giving raw yourself then its about 10% bone and 10% organ to meat.

I'm getting annoyed with the price of meat here. Even the farmers want to sell it for more than the stores!
 

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If you are buying prepacked raw then its ready to go. If you are giving raw yourself then its about 10% bone and 10% organ to meat.

I'm getting annoyed with the price of meat here. Even the farmers want to sell it for more than the stores!
That sucks. I finally found a source here that is SUPER cheap. I have to drive about an hour away to Madison to pick it up, but its totally worth it. They have Bison knuckle bones for like 2.69 a piece. I'm paying way more than that for crappy beef knuckles here. I know there is a Yahoo group you can join and exchange info on unpublished sources, so you may want to try that. Store meat is way overpriced.
 

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Thanks again for the advice, I appreciate it. I'm sure one day we'll make our own food when we have the time. It'll definitely pay off more when he's bigger, right now it costs me about $120 a month which is ok but I can't see myself paying much more.
 
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