Spay options...?

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Diane-n-Ana

Discussion Starter · Nov 12, 2006

So Ana's going in for her spay this Friday, and I've got some options from the vet. I'm a student right now (IE: POOR!

), so I want to keep costs to a minimum, but still not take any risks. So these are my options, according to my little spay info sheet from the vet:

1. Pre-anesthetic blood testing to "look at kidney and liver functions. This is important since these are the organs that metabolize the anesthetic. This allows us to alter our protocol to suit your pet."

2. Intravenous Fluids to "maintain blood pressure during the surgery." And to have "direct access to the vein in case of an emergency."

3. Intravenous catheter port "for those that refuse fluid therapy we strongly recommend at least having an IV cathetier in place."

And then my emergency vet also recommended considering sewing her stomach lining to her inside in order to prevent bloat.

So confused?! Please tell me your opinion.

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Puregrover

· #2 · Nov 12, 2006

when we got our old dog spayed we payed about 65 bucks and she was fine evan picked her up the same day if she is health i would just get her spayed this is only my opinion im no expert

Rue2

· #3 · Nov 12, 2006

I don't know either...Hanni had the 'luxury' spay...and Celeste had the 'no-frills' quick spay...

...both came through it just fine...

Puregrover

· #4 · Nov 12, 2006

in our town if your poor anu u cant afford to get your dog spayed the shelter comes to your house and dose it for free but u nust prove your income

the BIG&thelittle

· #5 · Nov 12, 2006

If she was old or had medical problems I would go with the "works".
If she is young and in good health I would go for the "no frills".
I would, however, if you are not going to be there for the spay, tell your vet that yuo do want IV ect. done IF there is a problem during surgery.
BUT.. either way make sure your vet knows you want pain control for her after.

Puregrover

· #6 · Nov 12, 2006

the BIG&thelittle said:
If she was old or had medical problems I would go with the "works".
If she is young and in good health I would go for the "no frills".
I would, however, if you are not going to be there for the spay, tell your vet that yuo do want IV ect. done IF there is a problem during surgery.
BUT.. either way make sure your vet knows you want pain control for her after.

ask the for ryimadil (spelling) or just give her a buffern asprin

the BIG&thelittle

· #7 · Nov 12, 2006

I'd ask for Metacam for pain. it's once every 24 hr.

NO aspirin...it promotes BLEEDING as it thins the blood!!!!

Kate

· #8 · Nov 12, 2006

the BIG&thelittle said:
BUT.. either way make sure your vet knows you want pain control for her after.

See I got Kate the pain meds for after... which included a shot and then pills to take home. The shot knocked her out after the spay, probably a combination with the anesthia too... so that was nice, but I NEVER had to give her the pain pills. She was aboslutely fine the next day.

Of all those options. I would go to the pre op blood work. It is a nice thing to have for future reference also. The other things... I believe you can go without

Puregrover

· #9 · Nov 12, 2006

the BIG&thelittle said:
I'd ask for Metacam for pain. it's once every 24 hr.

NO aspirin...it promotes BLEEDING as it thins the blood!!!!

she souldnt bleed that much but it dose thin the blood alittle that what we gave our old dog and she was fine

the BIG&thelittle

· #10 · Nov 12, 2006

""she souldnt bleed that much but it dose thin the blood alittle that what we gave our old dog and she was fine""

to each thier own..but I certainly would not give it to any of my dogs.

Puregrover

· #11 · Nov 12, 2006

we give our dogs buffern asprin all the time

Diane-n-Ana

Discussion Starter · #12 · Nov 12, 2006

Ok, thanks for the info.

What about sewing the stomach?

AllAmericanPUP

· #13 · Nov 12, 2006

all 4 of my females were spayed without any bloodwork or anything like that and they were all fine, no pain meds either

stapling the stomach is up to you, if she was a great dane or some other large breed i would say definately but she's an OEB and i dont think bloating is very common with them

yungster

· #14 · Nov 12, 2006

Do NOT give your dog aspirin after surgery... BIG no no. Aspirin is fine for aches and pains, but not post-op!! It can cause bleeding complications.

Good luck!

PaulaEdwina

· #15 · Nov 12, 2006

asdf.0 said:
So Ana's going in for her spay this Friday, and I've got some options from the vet. I'm a student right now (IE: POOR! ), so I want to keep costs to a minimum, but still not take any risks. So these are my options, according to my little spay info sheet from the vet:

1. Pre-anesthetic blood testing to "look at kidney and liver functions. This is important since these are the organs that metabolize the anesthetic. This allows us to alter our protocol to suit your pet."

2. Intravenous Fluids to "maintain blood pressure during the surgery." And to have "direct access to the vein in case of an emergency."

3. Intravenous catheter port "for those that refuse fluid therapy we strongly recommend at least having an IV cathetier in place."

And then my emergency vet also recommended considering sewing her stomach lining to her inside in order to prevent bloat.

So confused?! Please tell me your opinion.

Pre-anesthetic bloodwork is nice for picking any as yet undetected anomalies that would increase risk for surgery. If your dog is older it is definitely warranted. That is not to say that young healthy dogs can't have hidden organ problems, but the odds are less. This one is a small gamble - up to you.

IV fluids are a must. This is the least of your costs.

Preventative gastropexy - I've heard of doing this with giant breeds that have a VERY HIGH RISK of GDV (bloat), but not as a matter of course for an AB. So this one is absolutely frivolous IMO.

Paula

Diane-n-Ana

Discussion Starter · #16 · Nov 12, 2006

Thanks for your help guys!

ultimatek9

· #17 · Nov 12, 2006

I always make sure that the vet only use Isoflorin to anesthetise. This is a gas and cleanses out of the animal's system very quickly and safely; unlike injections, which the organs have to filter out of the blood stream.

I have never had the pre-op blood work done on any of my animals. I also do not get the pain relievers. I just start them on Arnica the day before the surgery and continue it for five days. Never had a problem. My opinion is the less chemicals that get put into their system the better. I know not everyone would agree with me, but I also refuse to subject my dogs to conventional vaccinations. These are my thoughts.

PaulaEdwina

· #18 · Nov 12, 2006

I also insist on isoflurane with my sighthounds.

I would not stint on pain management - a spay is abdominal surgery. I agree that meds are a risk vs return question, but I would not deprive an animal of painkillers post surgery. Arnica is a great supplement, but it is not for pain management.

More and more vets are beginning to see that over-vaccinating may be having deleterious effects on animals. The rabies booster is already three years, and now the distemper booster is being looked at for a three year interval. However, my animals get vaccinated and would continue to be whether it is three or one year intervals.

Paula

ultimatek9

· #19 · Nov 12, 2006

PaulaEdwina said:
I also insist on isoflurane with my sighthounds.

I would not stint on pain management - a spay is abdominal surgery. I agree that meds are a risk vs return question, but I would not deprive an animal of painkillers post surgery. Arnica is a great supplement, but it is not for pain management.

More and more vets are beginning to see that over-vaccinating may be having deleterious effects on animals. The rabies booster is already three years, and now the distemper booster is being looked at for a three year interval. However, my animals get vaccinated and would continue to be whether it is three or one year intervals.

Paula

Arnica is not a supplement, it is a homeopathic remedy (i.f that is what out meant) Several of my friends and family members; as well as, myself use it too for increased healing, reduced swelling and bruising, and pain relief. My best friend had her ear torn apart by a dog that we were grooming. After she had it sutured back together, she used Arnica for pain and healing. It healed within a week with no problems.

PaulaEdwina

· #20 · Nov 13, 2006

ultimatek9 said:
PaulaEdwina said:

I also insist on isoflurane with my sighthounds.

I would not stint on pain management - a spay is abdominal surgery. I agree that meds are a risk vs return question, but I would not deprive an animal of painkillers post surgery. Arnica is a great supplement, but it is not for pain management.

More and more vets are beginning to see that over-vaccinating may be having deleterious effects on animals. The rabies booster is already three years, and now the distemper booster is being looked at for a three year interval. However, my animals get vaccinated and would continue to be whether it is three or one year intervals.

Paula

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Arnica is not a supplement, it is a homeopathic remedy (i.f that is what out meant) Several of my friends and family members; as well as, myself use it too for increased healing, reduced swelling and bruising, and pain relief. My best friend had her ear torn apart by a dog that we were grooming. After she had it sutured back together, she used Arnica for pain and healing. It healed within a week with no problems.

My riding instructor also uses arnica for injury, but I still hesitate to say that it is good for post op pain management in lieu of classical pain management. But to be fair I did a quick google and found a double blind study comparing arnica to other pain meds in post op women having undergone breast augmentation. There was no significant difference between arnica and placebo.

I've attached the link below.

http://www.breastimplants411.com/dbii/articles.asp~Article_ID=108

Paula

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