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Ok, I am so scared for my baby boy. At the vet the other day he noticed the bend in his front leg and said we should have an orthopedic surgeon check it out. Well they are 2 hours from our town. Anyway, so I am worried he might need surgery for that, which was ok, b/c we knew it wasn't normal. Now I have noticed him being a little stiff when he first gets up. I talked to Chico.Heidi about Chico's hips. I was told a sign of hip problems is being stiff and bunny hopping, etc. Well he does the bunny hop thing too when he is walking fast or running. So now I am worried about his hips too. I guess we will have to get all of his legs xrayed at the orthopedist. I am so scared for him. I can't imagine putting him through two different surgeries. But, I am willing to do or pay anything to get him better. I couldn't live without him. I am so scared. Does anyone have advice on supplements or anything else I could do for him. He is only 6 months old and I am worried it will get worse. Please help. Here is a pic of his leg, the best ones I could find, it is his right front ankle, his foot points out instead of straight. I am more worried about his back hips though.

 

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Oh, and the vet said not to use supplements b/c the body will get used to it and stop producing it naturally, but I am not going to listen. He is a good vet, but nobody knows everything, so I am going to start him on something now.
 

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i remember you posting before about his front leg but i can't remember if it bothers him?

as for his hips, you can have the vet x-ray for hip dysplasia...... and then go from there.

i personally wouldn't worry tooo much if his front leg is sturdy and not painful. as for his hips, i can't give any advice.... my rott went thru 2 knee surgeries by the age of 2, 1 screw worked it's way out even, now she's almost 10 and still has trouble getting up and getting down..... or tires out easily. but she is still happy as a peach. once that changes then we will have to put her down...

best of luck to you and don't worry so much until you get the x-rays back.


also, baylee has been limping again on the foot that had a broken toe.... but she only limps after long long walks or hard play. i can't afford to take her to the vet, until she shows major signs of distress......

i guess my point is try not to get too worked up and freaked out....
 

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I am really sorry to hear about Deuce :( I hope it all works out for you guys.

Do you remember yet which breeder you got him from?
 

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Try Joshuakennels.com He sells a product called prevention that is suppose to be great for joint problems- good luck
I just went throught two tplo surgery's for my AB. She tore both cruciate ligaments- Not fun!
 

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im sorry to hear this. i know nothing about it but i wish you two the best of luck. is his leg always like that? or he only does it at certain times?
 

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http://www.liquidhealthinc.com/prodInterior.php?prodID=12

I know people who use this for dogs and people who use this for horses. They all swear by it. As far as your vet saying the body will get used to supplements and stop producing your own I am really perplexed by this as NO CARBON BASED LIFE FORM can create minerals. Mineral supplementation is perfectly healthy. The only thing that may happen is called receptor downgrade. The body has mechanisms for entry of things into cells. Think of it like the freeway and you need to pay a toll. Without paying the toll you cant get through. As you put more and more stuff into the body, some things have a desensitization with getting through and it takes more to garner the same effect (more expensive to pass). But I just want to emphasize that minerals cannot be made by any organism. I don't know the conversation you had with your vet so I don't want to call him out, but if it is exactly how I am interpreting it I would question his knowledge on the topic and get a second opinion, maybe even from a holistic vet with more experience in nutrition and supplementation.

Anyways, good luck and hopefully it all works out.

Justin
 

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I will find the breeders name. He was in a city near Waco. I have it but have to get it out. I will let you know tomorrow. I don't have any contact info on him, but I knew about his front leg when I got him, b/c he was just learning to walk. More info in the morning. Thanks for everything guys.
 

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Yeah, his front leg always looks like that. His foot is turned to the side. I have noticed i more lately so I think it may be getting a little worse. The breeders name is Norman Green. His sire is Ben Norman's First and the Dam is Texas Best Georgia. Probably never heard of them b/c I am thinking BYB. Not the most informed decision I have made in my life.
 

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Good Luck to you, all this is scary :shock: ..Boss Hog dislocated his hind leg completly :( when he was a little dude he hit a big pot hole in the yard playing soccer with the kids and it just popped completly out :shock: :shock: ..I rushed him to the vet cuz his entire hind leg was just hanging there..they put him under and popped it back in and he is just fine today..I do give him a supplement with his dinner just to make sure all is good..

On of my girlfriends shoulders does the same thing when we play volleyball and we just shove her up against a tree and pop it back in...kinda wierd :roll: ...

Good Luck little guy...and hang in there..they did not need to worry about Boss, I was the one about to faint..


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sorry DM but his front right leg looks really off. I certainly think I would be contacting the kennel and getting some funds to get that fixed. Was it like that when you picked him up? That can't be comfortable. :eek:

How does he run? It almost looks like a knee issue. Is his paw ever facing forward?
 

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sorry DM but his front right leg looks really off. I certainly think I would be contacting the kennel and getting some funds to get that fixed. Was it like that when you picked him up? That can't be comfortable. :eek:

How does he run? It almost looks like a knee issue. Is his paw ever facing forward?
LOL, do they have knees on their front legs??? I too would be contacting the breeder.

The reason I am curious about his breeder is because not to long ago I ran into a man at the vets office that had an Olde. He told me that his son paid over $2,000 for him and was told he was an english bulldog. Then the breeder never sent the papers on him! I gave him the IOEBA website to see if he could track down the breeder, but he had no luck. He also got his dog shipped to him from someone near Waco. Slim chance that it is the same breeder, but you never know. It kills me that there are so many unethical breeders out there!
 

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Well Deuce had problems walking when he was a baby. He didn't start walking til he was 7-8 weeks. He was too fat and couldn't walk. They had to take him away from mom and put him on a diet. They did physical therapy on him to get him walking. We knew he had this problem when we got him. There was no health gaurantee due to this. He was only $300 and he is registered with the IOEBA. The breeder doesn't have a kennel name as far as I know. And yes, I realize this was a bad buy and decision, but I would never change a thing. I love him so much and I am willing to do anything for him. I think if someone else got him they would just give up on him or leave him in pain. I will be much more informed next time we get a dog. His leg is always like that but he doesn't have any problems walking. He runs really fast too. He doesn't seem to notice he is different. I am going to take him toa specialist for an evaluation and see what they say. I know it will probably bother him as he gets bigger. We will see what they say.
 

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Forgot something. His leg wasn't like that when we got him but he was still learning to walk and was splayed (thing that is the term). We knew it could cause problems later on. This is how he looked. And yes that is Purina puppy food in the background. He is not on that anymore. We only gave him that for a few weeks. He is on Royal Canin.
 

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Well Deuce had problems walking when he was a baby. He didn't start walking til he was 7-8 weeks. He was too fat and couldn't walk. They had to take him away from mom and put him on a diet. They did physical therapy on him to get him walking. We knew he had this problem when we got him. There was no health gaurantee due to this. He was only $300 and he is registered with the IOEBA. The breeder doesn't have a kennel name as far as I know. And yes, I realize this was a bad buy and decision, but I would never change a thing. I love him so much and I am willing to do anything for him. I think if someone else got him they would just give up on him or leave him in pain. I will be much more informed next time we get a dog. His leg is always like that but he doesn't have any problems walking. He runs really fast too. He doesn't seem to notice he is different. I am going to take him toa specialist for an evaluation and see what they say. I know it will probably bother him as he gets bigger. We will see what they say.
I don't necessarily believe this is a bad buy. Some of the best breeders produce dogs that can have a defect (it may have been from giving birth) and as long as those pups are contracted to be spayed/neutered and they give a reduced price... i think its okay that you bought deuce. Esepcailly since you knew about this and so did the breeder. If the sale went on without you know and the breeder knowing then thats where the problems begin.

Same situation with kate... nothing as severe as yours but Kate and her sister were born with a birth defect in their tails. The breeder knew about it, my friend who bought them knew about it and he got reduced prices and had to get them spayed. And it was a good choice... wonderful dogs, so no reason they don't deserve the same loving homes b/c of a possible birth defect, ya know?
 

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Well Deuce had problems walking when he was a baby. He didn't start walking til he was 7-8 weeks. He was too fat and couldn't walk. They had to take him away from mom and put him on a diet. They did physical therapy on him to get him walking. We knew he had this problem when we got him. There was no health gaurantee due to this. He was only $300 and he is registered with the IOEBA. The breeder doesn't have a kennel name as far as I know. And yes, I realize this was a bad buy and decision, but I would never change a thing. I love him so much and I am willing to do anything for him. I think if someone else got him they would just give up on him or leave him in pain. I will be much more informed next time we get a dog. His leg is always like that but he doesn't have any problems walking. He runs really fast too. He doesn't seem to notice he is different. I am going to take him toa specialist for an evaluation and see what they say. I know it will probably bother him as he gets bigger. We will see what they say.
I don't necessarily believe this is a bad buy. Some of the best breeders produce dogs that can have a defect (it may have been from giving birth) and as long as those pups are contracted to be spayed/neutered and they give a reduced price... i think its okay that you bought deuce. Esepcailly since you knew about this and so did the breeder. If the sale went on without you know and the breeder knowing then thats where the problems begin.

Same situation with kate... nothing as severe as yours but Kate and her sister were born with a birth defect in their tails. The breeder knew about it, my friend who bought them knew about it and he got reduced prices and had to get them spayed. And it was a good choice... wonderful dogs, so no reason they don't deserve the same loving homes b/c of a possible birth defect, ya know?
That is exactly how I feel. He deserves a good home, and as long as he is happy, then that is all that matters. He deserves nothing but the best, and we intend to give it to him. After all, that is how I ended up here. Trying to find out what it is that is best for him. I have already learned so much.
 
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