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I am looking for a good strategy for teaching "down." Zeus was fairly easy to train "down" by the standard treat in front, then push it back, etc. However, our newly acquired Boxer that we rescued just stands back up from the sit, instead of going down, when trying to teach it to her.

We also use "off" for jumping on furniture, us, etc so that "down" is only for when we want to put her in a down.

Ideas?
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Thor said:
I am looking for a good strategy for teaching "down." Zeus was fairly easy to train "down" by the standard treat in front, then push it back, etc. However, our newly acquired Boxer that we rescued just stands back up from the sit, instead of going down, when trying to teach it to her.

We also use "off" for jumping on furniture, us, etc so that "down" is only for when we want to put her in a down.

Ideas?
Do you use a prong collar at all? In OB classes there are different ways to use a prong to make them do sits, downs, etc - different movements you do with the prong. Mags had trouble with down until I started using the prong - then once she understood what i wanted when i said "down" I didnt have to use the prong anymore.
I do use a prong occasionally, as a training tool, which is sounds like would be good in this situation. What would be the technique?
Thor said:
I do use a prong occasionally, as a training tool, which is sounds like would be good in this situation. What would be the technique?
Well a correction straight up is for a sit. A correction down and back is for a down. Does that make sense?? LOL - its much easier to demonstrate then explain! For the down you do the "jerk" or correction straight back and down towards their back so it encourages them to lay down.
Ah! Got ya. Good explanation. I will try that tonight. Thanks!
Thor said:
Ah! Got ya. Good explanation. I will try that tonight. Thanks!
I hope it helps - my OB trainer said that down and down stays are the hardest to teach because that is a submissive position for dogs and they don't naturally WANT to do it. But after awhile Mags got better with it!!
I hear ya. Took me FOREVER to teach Zeus it. Luckily he will kill himself doing anything for treats.
Just a follow-up. After just two sessions, Sibyl is about 50% there with down. She will even do it half the time now without a leash. Can't believe I overlooked such a good strategy.
Thor said:
Just a follow-up. After just two sessions, Sibyl is about 50% there with down. She will even do it half the time now without a leash. Can't believe I overlooked such a good strategy.
YAY - I'm glad its helping!!!I find that every once in a while Mags starts to "lag" on her downs without the leash so I'll bust it out and do some hard core reinforcement training for a couple days and then shes back to good. Just keep at it!! :D
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