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It really depends on the dog. Some females will really dry up and tighten up with diet and excercise, while others never really go tight again. It can also depend on how young they are, how many litters, etc. a young female with only one litter stands a better chance of tightening up than an older female. No female who has had a litter will ever go back to what they were prior though.

Good food, and plenty of excercise really make a difference though..the female you are looking at looks like her litter may have been a bit more recent...give her some time, and she will probably tighten up a bit.
 

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do they get big nipples just from being in heat?

does that dog look like it has had a litter?

because the foster parents just had it to the vet and the vet said she is only about 10 months old and he didn't she she had a litter, but then why would her nipples look that big then if she didn't have a litter?
 

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when do they usually hit their first heat? (if she's about 10 months old, could she of even had her first heat yet?)

and do female SBT's get really wide and fat when they are older? or do they stay lean and muscular like the male SBT's do?
 

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They can get their first heat as young as 6 months - it usually hits somewhere between 6 and 12. As for body condition, a female can stay just as lean and in shape as a male. It's all a matter of good diet and exercise.
 

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" big nibbles "

Ahh now this is a conversation I have waited for!!! My female has never been bred ..& now 5 years old..& her "nibbles" as we call them around here.. have never been small...All the time people ask if she's had a litter...or if she is due to have puppies....She's not spayed..but they have never shrunk


But the answer fer my dog is she's got sum biggen's... :roll:
 

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jaded - I think they would shrink if you had her spayed. The dog squale's looking at has already been done, so they will shrink. Your girl still has her hormones, so her body remains prepared for the possibility, I guess.
 

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Who knows? Usually in dogs that have not had pups, they tuck back up real nice in about 3 months or so (after the beginning of a heat cycle).

And jaded, as your girl ages, each heat cycle she has drastically increases her risk of pyometra. I've done sooooo many emergency spays to remove a uterus that absolutely FULL of green pus that it makes me sick. And we've only saved 1 dog in the 5 years I've been doing this. By the time one notices that their bitch is ill & a vet diagnoses pyometra, it's usually too late to save her. I'd hate for you to lose your beloved pet at a not quite so old age.
 

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My late pit was spayed at 1 year old and her nipples went down to almost nothing.

Really, if the dog is great don't turn her down because of something so pointless.
 

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Hey ya'll thank you for the advice & I was aware that spaying her would reduce the size....I've been showing her..& she has to be an intact female in order to show..also her big "nibbles"..have not stopped her from placing.. plus I have my 1 & only breeding set to go this dec..something I've researched waited a very long time for..& choose not to discuss on this board due to everyone's opinion....Her show career is coming to a close time for her 1 litter ..& then spaying....
 

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Hey ya'll thank you for the advice & I was aware that spaying her would reduce the size....I've been showing her..& she has to be an intact female in order to show..also her big "nibbles"..have not stopped her from placing.. plus I have my 1 & only breeding set to go this dec..something I've researched waited a very long time for..& choose not to discuss on this board due to everyone's opinion....Her show career is coming to a close time for her 1 litter ..& then spaying....
You put the effort in showing your dog, so your dog is good enough to breed...
 

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jaded1 said:
Hey ya'll thank you for the advice & I was aware that spaying her would reduce the size....I've been showing her..& she has to be an intact female in order to show..also her big "nibbles"..have not stopped her from placing.. plus I have my 1 & only breeding set to go this dec..something I've researched waited a very long time for..& choose not to discuss on this board due to everyone's opinion....Her show career is coming to a close time for her 1 litter ..& then spaying....
You put the effort in showing your dog, so your dog is good enough to breed...
You think so? I don't know anything about jaded1, so I'm not here to have a negative opinion about their breeding plans. I just don't agree with that statement in general. So if a dog has a health problem but the owner puts effort into showing the dog then its good enough to breed? If a dog is an unpredictable man biter but the owner puts effort into showing it then its good enough to breed? Conformation is just one part of a good breeding dog. IMO anyway, I'm sure jaded1 realizes this so its not meant to be about your dog at all, just in general when breeding dogs.
 

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bigut64 said:
jaded1 said:
Hey ya'll thank you for the advice & I was aware that spaying her would reduce the size....I've been showing her..& she has to be an intact female in order to show..also her big "nibbles"..have not stopped her from placing.. plus I have my 1 & only breeding set to go this dec..something I've researched waited a very long time for..& choose not to discuss on this board due to everyone's opinion....Her show career is coming to a close time for her 1 litter ..& then spaying....
You put the effort in showing your dog, so your dog is good enough to breed...


yep.. :lol:
 

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True_Pits said:
bigut64 said:
jaded1 said:
Hey ya'll thank you for the advice & I was aware that spaying her would reduce the size....I've been showing her..& she has to be an intact female in order to show..also her big "nibbles"..have not stopped her from placing.. plus I have my 1 & only breeding set to go this dec..something I've researched waited a very long time for..& choose not to discuss on this board due to everyone's opinion....Her show career is coming to a close time for her 1 litter ..& then spaying....
You put the effort in showing your dog, so your dog is good enough to breed...
You think so? I don't know anything about jaded1, so I'm not here to have a negative opinion about their breeding plans. I just don't agree with that statement in general. So if a dog has a health problem but the owner puts effort into showing the dog then its good enough to breed? If a dog is an unpredictable man biter but the owner puts effort into showing it then its good enough to breed? Conformation is just one part of a good breeding dog. IMO anyway, I'm sure jaded1 realizes this so its not meant to be about your dog at all, just in general when breeding dogs.
Your absolutely correct..if an animal has a health problem it shouldn't be shown nor bred..a good judge would point this out..also if your animal is aggressive you wouldn't be able to walk into the ring ...the word "unpredictable" man biter is funny..that could be any dog any breed anywhere anytime....hence the key word there was "unpredictable"..me as an owner I have put forth alot of effort in my dog...she is an excellent quaility animal..& I have researched for the last 2 years for the right male...to get back what I want for the bred & to meet the breed standards...as which should be done in any responsible breeding.... If I were ever to produce animals of poor quailty I'd have no quams of giving them away and spaying & neutering them myself & mataining the animals ..whatever is produced is my responsiblity no matter what....again my dog is 5 and never bred if it were about the money I would've cranked out puppies a long time ago.. I want to pursue weight pulling with my own dog that can also work a conformation ring...

Everyone on this board is quick to pass judgement..& yet when someone like myself who is responsible even mentions the word "breed"....well ya'll know what happens..*LOL*.. ..

I worked at an animal shelter..I've put many dogs down myself....I've put the turniqute around the front leg & watched the injection...watched the dog lick it's nose before it goes down..I've done the heart stick to see if it's still beating ..& I've tossed the bodies into the incinerator...i DO know where many of ya'll are coming from & can respect your opinions..& in return ask that my opinion be respected as well
 

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jaded1 said:
True_Pits said:
bigut64 said:
jaded1 said:
Hey ya'll thank you for the advice & I was aware that spaying her would reduce the size....I've been showing her..& she has to be an intact female in order to show..also her big "nibbles"..have not stopped her from placing.. plus I have my 1 & only breeding set to go this dec..something I've researched waited a very long time for..& choose not to discuss on this board due to everyone's opinion....Her show career is coming to a close time for her 1 litter ..& then spaying....
You put the effort in showing your dog, so your dog is good enough to breed...
You think so? I don't know anything about jaded1, so I'm not here to have a negative opinion about their breeding plans. I just don't agree with that statement in general. So if a dog has a health problem but the owner puts effort into showing the dog then its good enough to breed? If a dog is an unpredictable man biter but the owner puts effort into showing it then its good enough to breed? Conformation is just one part of a good breeding dog. IMO anyway, I'm sure jaded1 realizes this so its not meant to be about your dog at all, just in general when breeding dogs.
Your absolutely correct..if an animal has a health problem it shouldn't be shown nor bred..a good judge would point this out..also if your animal is aggressive you wouldn't be able to walk into the ring ...the word "unpredictable" man biter is funny..that could be any dog any breed anywhere anytime....hence the key word there was "unpredictable"..me as an owner I have put forth alot of effort in my dog...she is an excellent quaility animal..& I have researched for the last 2 years for the right male...to get back what I want for the bred & to meet the breed standards...as which should be done in any responsible breeding.... If I were ever to produce animals of poor quailty I'd have no quams of giving them away and spaying & neutering them myself & mataining the animals ..whatever is produced is my responsiblity no matter what....again my dog is 5 and never bred if it were about the money I would've cranked out puppies a long time ago.. I want to pursue weight pulling with my own dog that can also work a conformation ring...

Everyone on this board is quick to pass judgement..& yet when someone like myself who is responsible even mentions the word "breed"....well ya'll know what happens..*LOL*.. ..

I worked at an animal shelter..I've put many dogs down myself....I've put the turniqute around the front leg & watched the injection...watched the dog lick it's nose before it goes down..I've done the heart stick to see if it's still beating ..& I've tossed the bodies into the incinerator...i DO know where many of ya'll are coming from & can respect your opinions..& in return ask that my opinion be respected as well
Maybe you should have READ and actually took in my post. No one (at least not me) is passing judgement on you for breeding. I'm all for responsible breeding and stated I have no idea what/how you breed, don't know your plans therefore can't say anything negative about your decision.

My post was to the person who believes if an owner puts effort into showing the dog that somehow makes the dog breed quality. Being that I show and know many others that do I can say judges don't know if a dog is a carrier of a health problem. I'm certain most good judges would obviously point out the fact that a dog with a health problem shouldn't be bred but they themselves can't see if a dog has HD they don't have x-ray vision, they don't know if the dog has a heart problem or if the dog is a known carrier and producer of pups with health problems. A dog with a bad temperament shouldn't be bred despite its conformation, I realize you agree on this however "if your animal is aggressive you wouldn't be able to walk into the ring" thats untrue. I know a couple of aggressive dogs who have titles, I know a man biter who is a CH and has some Best Of Show wins. In the show ring he was fine however he has bit people several people outside of the show events, so people who don't know the dog like I do have no idea he's a man biter. I've known other dogs who were unpredictable biters who are pointed in the show ring, being that they are unpredictable they may or may not show aggression at that time in that situation. One had shown to be unpredictable with people growling/attempting to bite and other times was an angel with them. His 1st two shows he was fine and placed. Fortunately at his 3rd show he actually growled and showed teeth at the judge and was not only kicked out of the ring but had to leave the show grounds, I can't really say that will stop his owners from breeding him with his nice conformation and the wins he already got will sound really good selling to newbies who don't know enough to check everything out.

I have nothing against your breeding plans, not here to judge you. Just questioning the other posters beliefs. Maybe its not that people are quick to pass judgement, its that some people are quick to get defensive for no reason? I never said you shouldn't breed YOUR dog. I said just because a person puts effort into showing their dog doesn't mean it should be bred..IMO anyway and wondered what the OTHER POSTER thought about this. Because to me temperament and health are very important and dog with poor health/genetic problems or a bad temperament should not be bred just because the owner puts effort into showing the dog.
 

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True Pits-

I'd like to say thank you ..& I agree with everything in your post...and thank you for being honest on your opinion...I must admit..I was defensive when posting on this board & even mentioning my plan of a litter because of the attitude of many people on here ..this is something I've worked very hard for & have taken my time to do everything right..
 
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