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What makes you decide when to spay or neuter??

I made Lucy's appointment to get spayed on Friday, I've been kinda up in the air on this for a while now. She is 10 months old. I haven't been able to get to the schutzhund club for a while, I basically gave up because its such a far drive for me ( 4 hrs ) I know that you can't make a working dog out of one time a month, unless you can do stuff at home. I don't want to do stuff at home, cause I am still learning. Anyways since I gave up I decided it was time to spay her, cause I never planned on breeding anyway. But since I made this appointment I've really noticed what a good dog she is, she amazes me. She has so much determination and intensity in everything she does. The guys at the schutzhund club said she was a beautiful dog with ALOT of potential. I know I can still work her when she is spayed if I ever come accross someone who can help me. But I don't want to regret having her spayed.

SO anyways, this is basically a nothing post, just me trying to figure out what to do, LOL.

hehe, just a little story from last night, while I'm typing. :D

I brought Lucy to the ball park cause Chad was hitting balls, I let her go in the diamond, and she went and received pretty much EVERY ball that was hit, she was really hyper, lol. So all the guys went to collect the rest of the balls that she didn't get, and Mike, Chads friend decided to play tug with his glove, of course Lucy won. She ran around with his glove for probably10 minutes before Chad called her, and made her out. Then he gave the glove to Mike who went to put it in his bag. Well Lucy pretty much put him in a bark and hold cause she wanted the glove, I was DYING of laughter, and Mike was like " WTF, why won't she let me move?" LMAO!!!!! I just went over and grabbed her and gave her a ball and she was okay.
 

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you need to ask yourself meagan. "why do i want to breed her?"
if you answer "because i think she has something to add to the advancement of this breed" then you need to set out to prove she can add something. that means shows/training / trialing and health testing.
if you answer the question with "because i would like a puppy from her" then i recommend getting her fixed and go back to the breeder you bought her from for your puppy.
first you need to answer the question as to why you want to breed her, then look into you heart, the answer is already there.
 

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Thanks Cathy,

That is why I am having such a hard time. I don't really want to breed her, BUT I really think she might have the potential to add to the breed, make it better. I don't have any way right now to prove her, that is why I made the appointment to spay her. I don't want to breed her for myself, and I would never breed her unless she proved to be able to help advance the breed.

I think I may just wait for right now. I know I am responsible enough to have an intact dog, and maybe in the future I may find a way to work and prove her.

I don't know, maybe she isn't as nice as I think she is, I wish one of you guys could come evaluate her. The guys at the schutzhund club said she definately showed alot of potential, she has alot of drive, and good nerves. But those guys are shepard/mal people, they don't know bulldogs.

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then you need to get out to the shows/trials and have her evaluated. we all know that you are more than resposible enough to have an intact dog so wait, get her out and see what the "professionals" think. it would be a shame to lose a good dog that can add to the breed when so many that don't are out there being bred :)
 

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I like the stuff on the boyd's high jumpin mikie side.
It is hit and miss with any dog.

I am coming to see Trail hospital and Kelowna General for work next week.

how far are you from either? I will give you a free eval for work ability then.

There are some awesome dogs on your ped and some so so ones. Who knows. Dogs are a gamble, no matter how it is bred. I am very partial to woody blood. :)

However, I do feel a good one SHOULD BE BRED. There are too many crap out there. A good female is like gold. A strong female with stable, hard nerves, and high drive is like a thing of beauty. Females impress me more than males. For me, a female is MORE important than the male.
 

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Thank YOU SO MUCH PETER!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am about 2.5 hrs from Trail, When will you be there? I would love for you to look at her, and tell me what you think of her. Let me know!!
 

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Meg do whatever makes you happy, I have a 3 year bitch intact and she lives with 2 males, Just be careful, thats all i do. I havent fixed her yet, because i am still "evaluating" her.. she shows ALOT of potential but... like you i want the best....keep your options open and just be careful. Have peter look at her
 

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PM your number ........

I should be there on thrusday. I will bring some equipment.
If you could meet me there, that would be great!
Nothing major. Just want to check out her prey drive, focus, and nerves (to a degree. i know she is young).
 

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Okay, I made my decision.

Lucy is at the vet getting spayed. I really think she is a great dog, but I don't think that I will ever have the opportunity to prove her. If I do, then I will. I really never wanted to breed her anyway, there are alot of good females out there that people can prove, and breed. I have no interest to breed, so I figured why bother. I can still do anything I want with her. Hopefully I never regret this decision.

Thank You all for your support and opinions.
 

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I'm not a working person, but I just wanted to say kudos to you, Meg, for making an informed decision. Not just because you chose to have her spayed, but because you weighed both sides and made your choice to do whats best for Lucy.
 

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I have respect for you no matter what you would have decided. You have your head on straight and have the smarts and ability to be a responsible owner no matter what the case.

I hope the surgery goes well, Meagan. I am sure it will, but I want you to know I am thinking of you, Chad, and Lucy. Any surgery is stressful so my thoughts are with you guys.
 

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Thanks Kasco, and Lisa for the nice words.

I am a little nervous, but only 3 more hours till I get to pick her up. It should be a quiet night at home though. Definately gonna have to rent some movies and chill with my girl :D
 

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I'm a little late in replying but have been following your thread and I wanna ditto those kudos to you. I think we all know you are a wonderful and responsible owner. You had a hard decision to make, but thought it through.

Give Lucy some hugs and I hope she feels better soon!
 

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Everything went really well. Lucy is pretty wobbly still, but the incision looks good. She is passed out on the couch right now, and Koen is actually leaving her alone, surprising enough, I gave him some toys to keep him busy.

Lucy weighed 66lbs this morning, and Koen went for all his shots adn he weighs 33.6lbs, BIG BOY
 

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Lisa said:
I have respect for you no matter what you would have decided. You have your head on straight and have the smarts and ability to be a responsible owner no matter what the case.

I hope the surgery goes well, Meagan. I am sure it will, but I want you to know I am thinking of you, Chad, and Lucy. Any surgery is stressful so my thoughts are with you guys.

ditto, :)
 
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