[wizworx]

I am beside myself with my b-inlaw... his dog Sadie who is about 3 years old has had this rash on her tummy around her nipples and belly area for over 2-3 weeks now, I kept telling him to take her into the vet and he kept saying that it was what she always gets and it is due to her immune system and that he had the medicated shampoo and had been giving her baths etc.... well we went away on vacation for a week and then came home and we were watching her for a week for him while he was out of town, well the night we got home and started watching her I felt terrible! Her poor belly and nipples were so red and swollen and it stunk, my first thought was a yeast infection. I have smelt it in dogs ears before but not from a belly. I freaked out I called him and said gee thanks for leaving her in this condition under my care, and asked what he was giving her for it, his response was nothing... Well I was pissed, I had about 4 clavomax left over from my dog Zeke and I gave her one a day for the 4 days that I had on hand, well wouldn't you know the rash and swelling went down in 24 hours, and just turned into pinker looking skin and not red and swollen, so I called him and told him what I did and said as soon as you get home YOU Will take her to a vet and I told him that it was cruel of him just to think it was the same old stuff!!!!

My question to you is, can food allergies cause a yeast infection on the stomach of a dog, cause it never really ever seemed to make her itch but it did go from small pink rash to full blown red and swollen in a weeks time. She had mange when she was a pup and was given the diagnosis of immune deficient just cause she had mange when she was a few months old, I think alot of that came from where he got her too tho (BYB)....It does not seem to be seasonal with her cause she gets it on and off all year long... the reason I am asking if it is from food is cause he gives her all sorts of people food and I am always yelling at him not to do that because it is not good for her. Her regular dog food is Canidae and that has only been in the past year cause she was having these flair ups constantly on her other dog food (Purina) and suggested that he change her food and it helped for a while and kept the occourances to a minimum, but do you think people food can trigger these reactions??

I have tried to suggest things to him but he is one of those know it alls and this is the first dog he has ever owned and is not very experienced in that aspect, but he will tell you differently if you ask him, then again I think he, thinks he knows everything even if he has never done it....LOL!!!

Oh by the way he did finally take her to the vet yesterday after me harping on him about it, he thought he could just call up the vet and say perscribe me something for her rash with out taking her in, I said yeah right there is no Dr that will do that!!!! any way I won that battle... She has a yeast infection on her stomach, her left ear and between her toes on all of her paws and from the looks of it probably on her private area. The vet loaded him down with 3 different meds for this poor pup to take on a daily basis till it goes away.....

Sorry for rambling but I have been frustrated for a few weeks over this!!!

 

[Chico.Heidi]

She sounds like Chico. We've been dealing with this problem for a while now. I wouldn't get too down on your brother for it, I've tried lots of things with little relief. Yeast is a nightmare. Antibiotics work but as soon as the round is done the rash comes back and I can't keep Chico on antibiotics for life. I switched vets and he gave me a supplement that has worked miracles for Chico. It's really expensive though. He also gave me some Malaseb foot wipes that seem to work pretty well between the toes. For Chico, we think its pollen/ seasonal allergies. Depending on the weather though, seasonal allergies can last year round. :roll: Grain and foods high in sugar will definitly make the problem worse. I've gotten into a routine with Chico that I wipe him down with a wash cloth twice a day that has either a vinegar/water solution or a saltwater solution. It really helps to dry the skin out. It's a really bummer though. Chico will scratch until he bleeds. His nipples are tiny but sometimes his nails catch on them and I feel so bad. He can go from perfectly fine one day and within hours just be a big red itchy mess.

Here is some info that you can pass on to your brother if he is interested.
http://www.greatdanelady.com/articles/systemic_yeast_infections_candida_albicans.htm

 

[wizworx]

I don't mean to come down hard on my b-inlaw but 3 weeks of her suffering (well what I would take as suffering if my bellie and nips were red and swollen) and it was getting worse and not better, I had gotten aggrivated with him. I will definately pass on the link to him and any other information that I can get, cause this new vet (cause we moved recently) basically just gave him antibiotics and no further helpful hints to him as to how to maybe keep it at bay some, but then again he said he didn't ask either he just wanted the meds...

 

[Chico.Heidi]

I understand what you mean about the dog suffering, that would piss me off too. The antibiotics might be necesary to get her under control right now but most likely, the rash will come back stronger if nothing is done to improve her condition. Antibiotics kill the good bacteria as well as the bad so it makes it really hard for the immune system to fight the yeast. Hopefully they will be open minded to get her on some supplements or probiotics to help. Probiotics are pretty cheap at health food stores.

 

[luna]

this may sound silly...

i know with humans yogurt is good for yeast infections. the "good bacteria" works wonders for the system. luna's new food even has probiotics in it - so maybe you want to suggest something like that to your bro-in-law? as choco.heidi said, if a dog is prone to yeast chances are it'll just keep coming back time and again, so a diet change would be best.
but all that said - who knows if you want to even deal with trying to tell the bro-in-law something he "may already know"! some people, right?! best of luck to the pup though!

 

[wizworx]

Thanks for the replies guys, I basically just have to print out everything i find and shove it in his face, normally that is the only way he will change anything..LOL!! I am sure glad his brother (my hubby) is not that damn stubborn! LMAO!!!

probiotics?? what is this? I don't venture into too many health food stores....

Ok I am back disregard the above ?? I searched the internet and found the answer...
ok here is my next ? I read that Missing Link has probiotics in it as well as this stuff here http://www.petenzymes.com .... now is there anything that he should stay away from with these probiotics? Some of them said that they have yeast and others do not, and some have more other types of enzymes that others do not have....
After reading all that they do (the probiotics) it sounds like it would be a good thing even for dogs who do not have any issues, I might be getting some for my 2 pups.....

 

[FRANKtheTANK]

My question to you is, can food allergies cause a yeast infection on the stomach of a dog, cause it never really ever seemed to make her itch but it did go from small pink rash to full blown red and swollen in a weeks time.

my OEB had this problem before, and it is quite common as you can see from other people's posts in this forum. my friend is a intern at the vet's office and she said that this is quite consistent with the bully breeds. to answer your question here, food allergies are not the cause of yeast infections, but the two go hand in hand. a yeast infection can provoke more food allergies due to weakened immune system. this is what she told me, and i know because tank had the same issue before. he got a yeast infection, which in turn caused food allergies and acne, which also re-invoked his ringworm. it was a handful, but he's all back to normal now. :roll:

i chose to stay away from the anitibiotics because tank's condition didn't seem too serious when i brought him to the vet, just loss patches of hair on his chest and muzzle, and depending on severity, it may not be the best route. although antibiotics are necessary at times, they do kill "all" bacteria, good and bad, in the dog. this can cause imbalances when the dog recovers and may spur another yeast infection fast. i am not a vet, so don't take my word as law, but i chose to give half a tablespoon of non-fat plain yogurt for breakfast once a day, 2 teaspoons of bragg's apple cider vinegar in his drinking water twice a day, change of food from nutro to DVP duck and potato, omega 3/6/9? fatty amino acid supplement pills, demodox shampoo 2-3 times a week, and using a damp washcloth with warm water, wipe him down with the apple cider vinegar 2 times a day as well as washing his sleeping pad 3-4 times a week. within the week, i saw immediate results from red inflamation to pink and not inflammed, to normal. it took him 5 months to grow all of his hair back (which i was embarrased of walking him cause it looked like i mistreated him with all those missing patches :roll: ), and what a battle that was as well. i hope this info helped and good luck.